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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:45 am

https://amp.thedailybeast.com/the-nra-i ... ssion=true
The NRA Is Losing by JOY-ANN REID

The NRA is losing the public debate over guns. And they’re panicking because of it. There’s no other way to interpret the frantic behavior of America’s blood-soaked gun lobby.

But with gun sales declining and no black bogeyman in the White House to drive firearms hoarding in red states, the group has resorted to rank extremism to keep themselves in the conversation; churning out bizarre videos that warn of looming threats of urban collapse, hordes of brown people storming the hinterlands, and of course Antifa! … while urging their followers to strap up and prepare for civil war. Their latest opus, from Cruella de Ville stand-in Dana Loesch uses a draining hourglass to seemingly threaten disobedient members of the media by name (including yours truly) with the ominous message that our collective “time is up,” stealing the phrase coined by women fighting against sexual abuse in the workplace.
The Stoneman Douglas students reacted to Loesch’s snarling take in precisely the way that should worry the NRA most: not with terror but with ridicule, in the form of a parody video featuring MSD survivor Sarah Chadwick that quickly went viral, garnering the attention of outlets like The Mary Sue and Teen Vogue.

Message to the NRA: the kids aren’t afraid of you. Nor are they impressed by your lame never-quite-viral video campaigns. And unlike adults who spend most of their time at work or in the case of Republican and some Democratic lawmakers, cowering in the legislative cloakroom hoping the NRA lobbyists won’t get them, the kids have phones and sarcasm on lock and they can do this all day. Ms. Loesch and her equally lame friends will never beat teenagers at the social media game.
I love, love, LUV, these outspoken, take no prisoners kids!!!!!!


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Post by Lani » Sun Mar 18, 2018 4:12 am

Fred Meyer
The Portland, Oregon,-based chain in a statement Friday said it made the decision after evaluating customer preferences. The company sells guns at nearly 45 of its 132 stores in Oregon, Washington, Idaho and Alaska.

"Fred Meyer has made a business decision to exit the firearms category," the company said. "We are currently working on plans to responsibly phase out sales of firearms and ammunition."
:snippity:
Following last month's high school shooting in Parkland, Florida that left 17 people dead, Fred Meyer said it would stop selling firearms to anyone under 21. The company had already stopped selling assault-style guns several years ago, except in Alaska.
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Post by Volkonski » Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:51 pm

Disgusting.

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Post by Azastan » Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:41 pm

Volkonski wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:51 pm
Disgusting.

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Post by Dolly » Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:27 pm

Not NRA but...........
YouTube Suspends Major Gun Manufacturer, Bans Instructional Gun Videos

YouTube has updated its policies on content featuring firearms, leading to the suspension of a large gun manufacturer and forcing popular gun content creators to remove videos from their channels.

“While we’ve long prohibited the sale of firearms, we recently notified creators of updates we will be making around content promoting the sale or manufacture of firearms and their accessories, specifically, items like ammunition, gatling triggers, and drop-in auto sears," reads a statement from a YouTube spokesperson.

The list of prohibited content now includes links to sites that sell firearms, videos that teach installation of certain accessories, and videos that teach the entirely legal acts of manufacturing guns and reloading ammunition. Here are the specific guidelines from YouTube:
YouTube prohibits certain kinds of content featuring firearms. Specifically, we don’t allow content that:
Intends to sell firearms or certain firearms accessories through direct sales (e.g., private sales by individuals) or links to sites that sell these items. These accessories include but may not be limited to accessories that enable a firearm to simulate automatic fire or convert a firearm to automatic fire (e.g., bump stocks, gatling triggers, drop-in auto sears, conversion kits), and high capacity magazines (i.e., magazines or belts carrying more than 30 rounds).

Provides instructions on manufacturing a firearm, ammunition, high capacity magazine, homemade silencers/suppressors, or certain firearms accessories such as those listed above. This also includes instructions on how to convert a firearm to automatic or simulated automatic firing capabilities.

Shows users how to install the above-mentioned accessories or modifications.

Spike's Tactical, a Florida-based manufacturer of guns and accessories, posted on their Facebook and Instagram on Tuesday that their YouTube account has been suspended for violating community guidelines.
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Post by Volkonski » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:10 pm

Citibank is the 4th largest US bank by assets. I am guessing that NRA members will be closing their Citi accounts. ;)

Citi cracks down on gun sales: 'We want to do our part'

http://abcnews.go.com/US/citi-cracks-gu ... d=53939866
The new policy requires its new retail sector clients and partners to follow several practices: not sell guns to someone who didn't pass a background check; not sell bump stocks and high-capacity magazines; and not sell guns to people under 21 years old.

Ed Skyler, Citi's head of global public affairs, said Citi has a few relationships with companies that manufacture guns, and for those relationships, "We will be initiating due diligence conversations on the subject to better understand what products they make, what markets and retailers they sell to and what sales practices those retailers follow to ensure adherence to the best practices."

:snippity:

"We know our clients also care about these issues and we have begun to engage with them in the hope that they will adopt these best practices over the coming months," Skyler said. "If they opt not to, we will respect their decision and work with them to transition their business away from Citi."

The new rules won't affect Citi customers' ability to use their cards at businesses of their choice, Skyler added.


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Post by Volkonski » Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:15 pm

Gun Marches Keep Republicans on Defense in Midterm Races

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/25/us/p ... &smtyp=cur
Republicans have already been struggling to keep their footing in densely populated suburbs where Mr. Trump is unpopular and the National Rifle Association is an object of widespread scorn. The gun issue appears likely to deepen Republicans’ problems in these areas, further cleaving moderate, pocketbook-minded suburban voters from the party’s more hard-line rural base and raising the risks for Republicans in swing House districts around the country.

But gun control may be a complicated issue for Democrats, too, because of the makeup of the Senate races on the ballot in November. If Democrats have a path to capturing the House through mainly moderate, well-educated districts, they are also defending Senate seats in strongly conservative states, like West Virginia and North Dakota, and in Republican-leaning states like Missouri and Indiana, where pro-gun positions have long been safe political terrain.


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Post by neeneko » Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:05 pm

Volkonski wrote:
Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:10 pm
Citibank is the 4th largest US bank by assets. I am guessing that NRA members will be closing their Citi accounts. ;)

Citi cracks down on gun sales: 'We want to do our part'
I can remember when credit card processors did this to various segments of the adult industry, or when retailers (including amazon) started deciding what video games or books to carry.

This.. really isn't a good thing. Ok, hurting 'guns' is popular right now, but private gatekeepers with enough market control to pick winners and losers in cultural battles really concern me.



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Post by Volkonski » Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:08 pm




Ana Navarro

@ananavarro
Instead of TSA laws after 9/11, we should learn karate to down terrorist hijackers. Instead of laws against texting & driving, we should learn how to drive w/1 eye on the road & 1 on our phones. Instead of paying attention to Rick, we should pay attention to Stormy. Deplorable.
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@RickSantorum : ever done CPR on someone with a GSW to his chest? I have. Ever done CPR on someone with a GSW to his brain? I have. Abdomen? I have. I'm an ER doc and guess what? They bleed out. We don't need CPR classes, we need #GunControl and we need #GunReformNow #neveragain
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Post by Volkonski » Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:22 pm


ABC News

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Two churches that kept their doors open since 9/11, both installed metal detectors this month.

The metal detectors, installed March 1, will be there "until this world becomes a safer place," said Trinity's vicar, the Rev. Phillip Jackson.
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Post by p0rtia » Sun Mar 25, 2018 7:37 pm

Ricky is a "Senior Political Commentator" on CNN, which, as far as I can see, is a paid gig.

CNN pays him to say this kind of shit, so he does. Wag. Dog.

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Post by Volkonski » Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:29 am


Guardian news

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US gunmaker Remington files for bankruptcy
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9:09 AM - Mar 26, 2018
Hope this means less funding for the NRA.


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Post by Judge Roy Bean » Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:01 pm

Volkonski wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:29 am

Guardian news

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US gunmaker Remington files for bankruptcy
https://
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9:09 AM - Mar 26, 2018
Hope this means less funding for the NRA.
Doubtful. CNN: http://money.cnn.com/news/cnnmoney-inve ... index.html
Some political funding comes from big corporations, many within the gun industry, which donate millions to the NRA. But companies are barred from donating to the NRA’s political action committee, which the agency uses to fill campaign coffers, run ads and send out mailers for and against candidates.

That’s where individual donations come in.

Since 2005, the NRA Political Victory Fund has received nearly $85 million in contributions from individual donors. After the 2012 Sandy Hook shooting, donations to this political action committee surged as gun owners worried that their rights to buy and own guns were at risk.

Expect business as usual for Remington - just a lot less debt to carry.


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Post by RoadScholar » Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:37 pm

neeneko wrote:
Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:05 pm
Volkonski wrote:
Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:10 pm
Citibank is the 4th largest US bank by assets. I am guessing that NRA members will be closing their Citi accounts. ;)

Citi cracks down on gun sales: 'We want to do our part'
I can remember when credit card processors did this to various segments of the adult industry, or when retailers (including amazon) started deciding what video games or books to carry.

This.. really isn't a good thing. Ok, hurting 'guns' is popular right now, but private gatekeepers with enough market control to pick winners and losers in cultural battles really concern me.
So Hobby Lobby can decide for their employees what health insurance to provide based on their beliefs, but Citibank can't decide what sales they are willing to facilitate based on theirs?

Got it. :roll:


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Post by neeneko » Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:58 pm

RoadScholar wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:37 pm
So Hobby Lobby can decide for their employees what health insurance to provide based on their beliefs, but Citibank can't decide what sales they are willing to facilitate based on theirs?

Got it. :roll:
That is a bit of a leap.

I do not think Hobby Lobby should have been able to make such decision, and that the existing exemptions (which I thought already were huge gaping holes) were not enough made their behavior all that more despicable.



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Post by Mikedunford » Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:10 pm

RoadScholar wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:37 pm
neeneko wrote:
Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:05 pm
Volkonski wrote:
Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:10 pm
Citibank is the 4th largest US bank by assets. I am guessing that NRA members will be closing their Citi accounts. ;)

Citi cracks down on gun sales: 'We want to do our part'
I can remember when credit card processors did this to various segments of the adult industry, or when retailers (including amazon) started deciding what video games or books to carry.

This.. really isn't a good thing. Ok, hurting 'guns' is popular right now, but private gatekeepers with enough market control to pick winners and losers in cultural battles really concern me.
So Hobby Lobby can decide for their employees what health insurance to provide based on their beliefs, but Citibank can't decide what sales they are willing to facilitate based on theirs?

Got it. :roll:
I'm not as concerned with individual banks doing this as I would be if it was Visa or Mastercard, given that the number of banks out there is still pretty substantial and competition is still pretty robust, but given our increasingly cashless economy I think there's a legitimate concern there. I don't see why my bank should have a role in deciding what legal purchases they will or will not allow me to make with my own funds, provided that those purchases are legal. That's particularly true if the purchases are being made using debit cards rather than credit cards.

And: Hobby Lobby was a shitty decision that's hardly on-point. They were arguing about whether they could be forced to use their own funds to purchase services they objected to on religious grounds.


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Post by DejaMoo » Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:32 pm

Perfectly legal purchases many credit cards companies won't let you make with a credit card:

Lottery tickets
Gambling chips
Money orders
Medical marijuana
Bitcoin
Wikileaks donations
Mortgage payments
Lap dances
Prostitution
Mutual funds and stocks
Online porn
Online gambling
Purchases from disreputable/shady companies - i.e. any with a history of a *lot* of disputes and chargebacks from disgruntled customers


I expect a lot of the above fall into the general category of buyer's remorse-driven disputes and chargebacks, and others are either financially risky or potentially fraudulent, but there's also some moralizing going on there.



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Post by RoadScholar » Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:33 pm

The point was the dubious right of a company to make decisions that affect the lives of the public based on their philosophies.

I agree about the debit cards. No way that'd be right.


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Post by Mikedunford » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:05 pm

DejaMoo wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:32 pm
Perfectly legal purchases many credit cards companies won't let you make with a credit card:

Lottery tickets
Gambling chips
In many states, the use of credit to gamble is restricted by law. So not necessarily "perfectly legal." In addition, use of credit to gamble raises creditworthiness concerns which could justify restrictions in their own right.
Money orders
Are effectively cash advances, and are frequently treated as such by credit card companies.
Medical marijuana
Violates federal law. Not perfectly legal.
Bitcoin
A combination of "cash advance" and uncertain/unclear legality.
Wikileaks donations
I believe the cutoff there is on the receiver's end, as a result of their repeated, and blatant, and international, illegal conduct. So not perfectly legal.
Mortgage payments
Cash advance + creditworthiness concerns.
Lap dances
Your information may be outdated. In addition, there are practical difficulties with this form of payment.
Prostitution
Not legal at all, let alone "perfectly legal"
Mutual funds and stocks
Cash advance.
Online porn
No personal knowledge on whether it's possible, but I've seen lots of online adds for it over the years that have credit card logos, so I'd question whether this is accurate.
Online gambling
Not perfectly legal. Or, in most of the USA, even remotely legal.
Purchases from disreputable/shady companies - i.e. any with a history of a *lot* of disputes and chargebacks from disgruntled customers
That's a recipient restriction based on the purchaser's misconduct, not a buyer restriction based on the goods/services being sold.
I expect a lot of the above fall into the general category of buyer's remorse-driven disputes and chargebacks, and others are either financially risky or potentially fraudulent, but there's also some moralizing going on there.
Looks to me like pretty much everything on that list falls into either "not totally legal," "cash advance" (for which different rules apply) with or without creditworthiness concerns as an extra reason, or seller-side misconduct. Don't really see much (non-governmental) moralizing.


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Post by Mikedunford » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:06 pm

RoadScholar wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:33 pm
The point was the dubious right of a company to make decisions that affect the lives of the public based on their philosophies.

I agree about the debit cards. No way that'd be right.
Hobby Lobby, bad as it was, is restricted to religious beliefs and closely-held corporations. I really don't want to see it extended to public corporations and non-religious objections.


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Post by Flatpointhigh » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:10 pm

Volkonski wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:29 am

Guardian news

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US gunmaker Remington files for bankruptcy
https://
ebx.sh/2GaToN2

9:09 AM - Mar 26, 2018
Hope this means less funding for the NRA.
Means they won't have to pay out any settlements from the lawsuits that are being filed



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Post by Mikedunford » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:17 pm

Flatpointhigh wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:10 pm
Means they won't have to pay out any settlements from the lawsuits that are being filed
They wouldn't be anyway. The legal shield protecting gunmakers from lawsuits is very robust.


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Post by Sam the Centipede » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:31 pm

Mikedunford wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:05 pm
DejaMoo wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:32 pm
Lap dances
Your information may be outdated. In addition, there are practical difficulties with this form of payment.
I can understand why swiping one's card might cause the dancer some discomfort, and where's the fun in contactless payment?! :-D



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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:08 pm

Sam the Centipede wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:31 pm
Mikedunford wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:05 pm
DejaMoo wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:32 pm
Lap dances
Your information may be outdated. In addition, there are practical difficulties with this form of payment.
I can understand why swiping one's card might cause the dancer some discomfort, and where's the fun in contactless payment?! :-D
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Post by GlimDropper » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:33 pm

Mikedunford wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:05 pm
DejaMoo wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:32 pm
Perfectly legal purchases many credit cards companies won't let you make with a credit card:

Lottery tickets
Gambling chips
<Snip>
Bitcoin
A combination of "cash advance" and uncertain/unclear legality.
Pretty much none of the major cards will allow you to transfer value from crypto onto a debit card. This article reports on it but misses what I suspect the real reason is, crypto is a KYC nightmare.



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