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Post by Northland10 » Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:06 am

If we went to Taxation by Citation, I would have a seriously low tax burden. I once paid a fine of $25 in the early 90s. After that, nothing. Karl must provide more taxing opportunities.

When I read complaints about traffic tickets just being revenue collection scams, I become annoyed at how much money the Chicago area law enforcement is leaving on the table. Chicago area roads are a target rich environment for traffic citations.

I when I was down in the city more often, I did noticed that South Lake Shore had more enforcement, but that seemed to only apply to non-white drivers.
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Post by ZekeB » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:15 am

In some cases it's true. Very few, though. When I lived in Nebraska the bulk of traffic fines went to the school districts. A noble idea until the school administrators objected when the legislature rolled out a diversion program. I once read an article about a podunk town annexing a mile of interstate highway and living completely off the fines. It all worked for them until the state stepped in and passed a law requiring total fines collected above $10,000 per year be sent to the state. If the citations were legitimate, so be it. When I worked with the deputies I never saw a citation in their citation books that was written for going less than 20 MPH over the speed limit. If you were DUII or driving sans-license and there was nobody immediately available to drive the vehicle, it got towed.

Karl, you're cherry picking. You and your ilk need to be banned from our roads. You are a threat to me, my family and everyone else. Jail for you if you continue to drive without a license and obviously without insurance.
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Post by Northland10 » Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:10 pm

ZekeB wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:15 am
In some cases it's true. Very few, though. When I lived in Nebraska the bulk of traffic fines went to the school districts. A noble idea until the school administrators objected when the legislature rolled out a diversion program. I once read an article about a podunk town annexing a mile of interstate highway and living completely off the fines. It all worked for them until the state stepped in and passed a law requiring total fines collected above $10,000 per year be sent to the state. If the citations were legitimate, so be it. When I worked with the deputies I never saw a citation in their citation books that was written for going less than 20 MPH over the speed limit. If you were DUII or driving sans-license and there was nobody immediately available to drive the vehicle, it got towed.

Karl, you're cherry picking. You and your ilk need to be banned from our roads. You are a threat to me, my family and everyone else. Jail for you if you continue to drive without a license and obviously without insurance.
I would agree that the issue is different in small town areas. Between some areas that have a financial incentive to stop drivers and others that just have officers with not a whole lot to do, enforcement is much higher then where I currently live. I am always amazed how many city folk can never learn that you always slow down while driving through a small town, even if the speed limit is hideously low. These are the same people who speed right back up right after seeing one doe cross the road.
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Post by DejaMoo » Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:38 pm

I can't read anything from Karl without picturing him in a straitjacket, flinging his head from side to side, spittle flying out of his mouth while he babbles loudly and nonstop.

There are two consistent beliefs of kooks that (since they won't shut up about them) make the kooks easy to identify as such:

1. God is always on their side, and
2. Government isn't.

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Post by Orlylicious » Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:40 pm

Replies to his earlier post, he tagged Rodger B. Dowdell, Jr. And Jan knows the real deal.
Jan Champine You sure look happy!!! Nice knowing you're going to be rich off those assholes, isn't It?
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Post by TheNewSaint » Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:44 pm

Anyone who thinks Karl would share his wealth to help political prisoners need only look at a picture of his truck.

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Post by Estiveo » Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:14 pm

TheNewSaint wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:44 pm
Anyone who thinks Karl would share his wealth to help political prisoners need only look at a picture of his truck.
Now, now, Karl was going to share the wealth by driving Patriots around in his truck so they could edumacate the ignant public. As long as they paid for the gas, anyway.
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Post by Foggy » Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:21 pm

Hay, that monstrosity has to get at LEAST 6 miles per gallon. :mrgreen:
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Orlylicious wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:40 pm
Replies to his earlier post, he tagged Rodger B. Dowdell, Jr. And Jan knows the real deal.
Jan Champine You sure look happy!!! Nice knowing you're going to be rich off those assholes, isn't It?
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Post by BigSkip » Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:17 pm

Haven't these morons ever noticed their pretend judgements never lead to real money?

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Post by JohnPCapitalist » Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:36 pm

BigSkip wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:17 pm
Haven't these morons ever noticed their pretend judgements never lead to real money?
I think that many of them have the emotional maturity of 8 year old boys. 8 year old boys sit around in their "seekrit clubhouse" and hatch endless plans to take over the school so they get 2 hour recesses, all-you-can-eat free ice cream at lunch and the right to choose their teachers. They assure themselves they'll launch their plan this coming Monday at 10:00. And of course the fact that it never happens bothers them not in the least as they're still young enough to believe a little bit in magical thinking even if they've grown out of Santa Claus. Just like the poots.

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Post by scirreeve » Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:45 pm

Kapn's advice to Duane Ehmer on his sentencing next week. Kap references the NV Judge, not the Judge that will be sentencing Ehmer. Minor detail I suppose.
I know. We will be able to use my legal strategy and legal paperwork and documents, regarding Section 241 and 242 Deprivation of Rights to not only spring you out, but to place the Tyrannical Judge Gloria Navarro in prison and glean many hundreds of thousand$ in restitution costs, via Criminal and Civil Actions against these Capital Felony violators of the Rule of Constitutional Law and Order which expressly prohibit the U.S. Government from owning or managing ANY LAND within any Territory that has been transformed into a State.

But brother, it is going to take about 6 Months or so for everything to develop.

I'm working on it. See / review a lot of my Timeline to see what I am talking about, as it explains the entire process in reasonable detail.

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Post by BigSkip » Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:02 pm

JohnPCapitalist wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:36 pm
BigSkip wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:17 pm
Haven't these morons ever noticed their pretend judgements never lead to real money?
I think that many of them have the emotional maturity of 8 year old boys. 8 year old boys sit around in their "seekrit clubhouse" and hatch endless plans to take over the school so they get 2 hour recesses, all-you-can-eat free ice cream at lunch and the right to choose their teachers. They assure themselves they'll launch their plan this coming Monday at 10:00. And of course the fact that it never happens bothers them not in the least as they're still young enough to believe a little bit in magical thinking even if they've grown out of Santa Claus. Just like the poots.
By far the best explanation I have seen.

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Post by scirreeve » Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:17 pm

Karl is still drunk posting on FB. Now threatening something with his imaginary army.
IF THE STATES DON'T PASS STATE SOVEREIGNTY RESOLUTIONS, THE AMERICAN MILITIA FREEDOM FORCES OF Article I Section 8 clause 15 will have to do their CONSTITUTIONAL DUTY and RESPONSIBILITY to RESTORE the Rule of our Ninth and TENTH Amendment Laws upon The President of The United States of America, upon BOTH Houses of Congress, upon The Supreme Court of the United States, and upon both REPUBLICANs and Democrats in our Municipal, County, State and U.S. Governments...
AND, YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE that fiery, because it is THE WRATH OF GOD! Pursuant to Romans 13:1-5 King James Version and why He endowed We The People, who are His ordained Rulers, Leaders and Higher powers over America and over the President of The United States and over Both Houses of Congress, and over The Supreme Court, with THE SWORD of the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. BUT in "a REPUBLICAN form of Government" as guaranteed to each of our free, independent and sovereign home Countries, which "form a more perfect Union" of fifty free, independent and sovereign Countries, called "States", to protect ourselves from the American Voting MOB Rule of a "Representative Democracy", which is surely Socialism in Execution, made UNLAWFUL under Article IV Section 4 of The Constitution.

FORCE AND COMPEL by State Elections, your State Assemblyman and State Senator to sponsor and facilitate the passage of Thomas Jefferson's and James Madison's language of State Sovereignty Resolution augmented with an ARREST PROVISION to make it BINDING... BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!
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Post by Orlylicious » Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:32 pm

This is the disgusting video that Karl posted, reported it. It's like ISIS in its production.

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Post by scirreeve » Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:51 pm

Orlylicious wrote:
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This is the disgusting video that Karl posted, reported it. It's like ISIS in its production.
Good - I edited and deleted that link from my post so that stupid thing didn't pop up. I hadn't noticed the link was in the part I C/Ped until I posted.

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Post by Sam the Centipede » Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:07 am

scirreeve wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:17 pm
Karl is still drunk posting on FB. Now threatening something with his imaginary army.
IF THE STATES DON'T PASS STATE SOVEREIGNTY RESOLUTIONS, THE AMERICAN MILITIA FREEDOM FORCES OF Article I Section 8 clause 15 will have to do their CONSTITUTIONAL DUTY and RESPONSIBILITY to RESTORE the Rule of our Ninth and TENTH Amendment Laws upon The President of The United States of America, upon BOTH Houses of Congress, upon The Supreme Court of the United States, and upon both REPUBLICANs and Democrats in our Municipal, County, State and U.S. Governments...
AND, YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE that fiery, because it is THE WRATH OF GOD! Pursuant to Romans 13:1-5 King James Version and why He endowed We The People, who are His ordained Rulers, Leaders and Higher powers over America and over the President of The United States and over Both Houses of Congress, and over The Supreme Court, with THE SWORD of the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. BUT in "a REPUBLICAN form of Government" as guaranteed to each of our free, independent and sovereign home Countries, which "form a more perfect Union" of fifty free, independent and sovereign Countries, called "States", to protect ourselves from the American Voting MOB Rule of a "Representative Democracy", which is surely Socialism in Execution, made UNLAWFUL under Article IV Section 4 of The Constitution.

FORCE AND COMPEL by State Elections, your State Assemblyman and State Senator to sponsor and facilitate the passage of Thomas Jefferson's and James Madison's language of State Sovereignty Resolution augmented with an ARREST PROVISION to make it BINDING... BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!
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That partially answers my question about how these anarcho-fascist morons justify their claims of divine approbation. But of course any rational person reading those verses sees that the Krazy Kommandant is doing exactly the opposite of what the Bible mandates. It explicitly tells him to obey the secular authorities because they wouldn't be in power unless they were approved by God. It says clearly and unambiguously that "You, The People" should obey and respect the government whether you like it or not. But Kaptain Krap follows good right-wing nutter tactics in lying about it, completely inverting its meaning.

And he explicitly cites the King James Version. There's a clue in the name. King James did not think "let's include a passage saying that the peasants can ignore my officers with impunity and they don't have to pay taxes or tolls, and that they should raise armies against me."

And I doubt that there is a special exemption for imaginary armies or especially ugly trucks.

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Post by pipistrelle » Sat Nov 11, 2017 7:05 am

It has slowly dawned on me that he and his ilk make it up as they go along and trying to find any rationale or meaning is going to be fruitless and stressful.

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Post by Notorial Dissent » Sat Nov 11, 2017 8:32 am

If they do it with the law, which we know and have ample proof of, why shouldn't they do it with the Bible? It's much easier to make it up than actually read what you are claiming to quote.
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Post by LtDansLegs » Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:51 am

Northland10 wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:06 am
If we went to Taxation by Citation, I would have a seriously low tax burden. I once paid a fine of $25 in the early 90s. After that, nothing. Karl must provide more taxing opportunities.

When I read complaints about traffic tickets just being revenue collection scams, I become annoyed at how much money the Chicago area law enforcement is leaving on the table. Chicago area roads are a target rich environment for traffic citations.

I when I was down in the city more often, I did noticed that South Lake Shore had more enforcement, but that seemed to only apply to non-white drivers.
Chicago area has some rather unique traffic enforcement habits, (mostly since they're busy with actual crimes) so it's pretty hard to get pulled over for your average traffic infraction. Also, I don't recall the exact details but the gist is that Chicago Police are not technically responsible for interstate/city expressways, that is up to the State Police. They have a jurisdiction agreement that allows CPD to operate there, but they don’t generally pull over drivers on the expressways.

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Post by JohnPCapitalist » Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:27 am

Notorial Dissent wrote:
Sat Nov 11, 2017 8:32 am
If they do it with the law, which we know and have ample proof of, why shouldn't they do it with the Bible? It's much easier to make it up than actually read what you are claiming to quote.
You'd think that fundamentalist types would engage in elaborate acts of nuanced scholarship, given that their world view depends on treating every word in the bible as infallible and perfect. But it seems to me that actually knowing the bible and thinking about the text ends up being dangerous to such people as it's hard to reconcile their core doctrine of inerrancy with all the gaping flaws in the text -- the significantly different versions of the resurrection story in the different gospels (the core defining moment of the entire faith), among countless others. The more you read, the more questions you ask, and the more questions you ask, the harder it is to sustain a simplistic belief that everything is literally true. I can't remember who said "the best way to create an atheist is to get someone to actually read the bible."

The other thing that many fundamentalists want is certainty and easy answers. This has led to generations of poorly read preachers engaging in "prooftexting," the practice of quoting a single verse completely out of context, typically to define some sinful behavior. Of course, that creates a lot of bad behavior by quoting something out of passage, like the story of Onan in Genesis 38. The line about "spilling his seed upon the ground" is used to condemn the "evils" of masturbation but anyone reading the whole story would realize that he was punished for disobeying a very different tribal law. Anyone in the audience who knew the true story of Onan from actually reading the bible would know that a preacher's prooftexting was wrong. Over time, enough of that would lead people to see the contradictions in their faith and would drive many to leave. So knowledge of the bible I think actually becomes a liability, not an asset, over time.

Incidentally, the long and dishonorable practice of prooftexting is probably at least partly responsible for a lot of the hilarity we enjoy with the poot crowd. Quoting a single passage from an irrelevant court case as "proof" of something without any attempt to understand the context of the quote or the overall way the framework of the law fits together comes from a tradition many of these people are steeped in. And for those who aren't raised as fundamentalists, intellectual laziness and lack of education probably does in the rest.

So Karl's assertion that the right to drive without a license is a right given by God, superseding centuries of settled law, undoubtedly comes from a handful of prooftexted bible quotes handed to him by some backwoods preacher who also says simplistic things like "God is the source of everything in the universe." Karl's little brain strings a couple of these nuggets together and... voila! He has never read enough of the bible to suspect the existence of major passages such as the Romans 13 quote that undermine his argument pretty convincingly.

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Post by pipistrelle » Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:49 am

JohnPCapitalist wrote:
Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:27 am
Notorial Dissent wrote:
Sat Nov 11, 2017 8:32 am
If they do it with the law, which we know and have ample proof of, why shouldn't they do it with the Bible? It's much easier to make it up than actually read what you are claiming to quote.
So Karl's assertion that the right to drive without a license is a right given by God, superseding centuries of settled law, undoubtedly comes from a handful of prooftexted bible quotes handed to him by some backwoods preacher who also says simplistic things like "God is the source of everything in the universe." Karl's little brain strings a couple of these nuggets together and... voila! He has never read enough of the bible to suspect the existence of major passages such as the Romans 13 quote that undermine his argument pretty convincingly.
Not to mention, Ford trucks weren't around in biblical times. If we're being literal.

Does Karl sacrifice lambs, separate meat and milk, etc., etc.? The Old Testament has a ton of rules that are pretty hard to follow. Not to mention he's broken most of them anyway. And you're supposed to treat your body like it's a temple. That probably means alcohol in moderation.

Oh, yeah, and no bacon. No, really, Karl, NO BACON.

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