TED VISNER: Passive-Aggressive Patriot

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Post by Whip » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:41 pm

MFI-Miami wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:59 pm
Here we go again with Ted having delusions of grandeur about being a hero revolutionary. If Ted hired Anthony Lubkin as his attorney, he better be stocked up on Astro-glide and love bologna because he'll be in prison for a long time.

Lubkin is a boob. He makes Lionel Hutz from The Simpsons look legit. He is probably one of the most incompetent attorneys in Michigan. I know because I worked with him several foreclosure cases.

Scroll to the bottom of the article:
https://mfi-miami.com/2013/08/linda-orlans-2/

Lubkin has also been in the slammer:
http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.s ... s_are.html
why would he hire a lawyer? didn't he start his own legal soiree not that long ago?

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Post by Notorial Dissent » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:49 pm

Besides, Ted has long ago made it abundantly clear that he doesn't listen to ANYONE but the voices in his head. Why should he change strategies now? Besides, the laws don't apply to him, so they can't do anything to him.
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Post by MFI-Miami » Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:55 am

Did Ted's hearing from yesterday get adjourned? I can't find any news stories about his wacky courtroom shenanigans.

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Post by GlimDropper » Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:05 am

I was just looking for any chatter on Ted's hearing but couldn't find any on facebook. Maybe AXJ Ed and his 500,000 alts all over slept. The Bay County court site listed docket entries from yesterday so it looks like the hearing happened but offers no details.

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Post by GlimDropper » Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:54 pm

While never noted for his accuracy, detail or honesty AXJ Ed still gets around to his updates:
Ted Visner Deserves Justice
8 hrs ·
AXJ TED VISNER UPDATE : Just a quick update for everyone who is concerned. The second part of the preliminary hearing continued with videos and hearsay evidence but no real proof of anything. Ted is considered to be a "violent" person because he makes videos? He has been convicted? Of what, not wanting to pay the car registration? I don't want to pay it either. We are in the process of preparing the appeals so should take another month or so, hopefully before X-Mas. In the meantime we have decided to contact the ACLU since this case is crazy stupid. No other way to describe it. Reporter William Wagener is covering the story. Stay tuned. You may also write to the ACLU at 125 Broad Street, 18th Floor, New York NY 10004 or call 212-549-2500.https://www.facebook.com/TEDVISNERJUSTICE/
Fortunately MLive was on hand to provide a few small things that escaped AXJ's notice:

Militia-minded man testifies he sold pot to cops, but asserts that's not illegal
BAY CITY, MI -- With a pot leaf inked onto the back of his shorn head, Theodore J. Visner testified he did indeed break the law by repeatedly selling medical marijuana to undercover cops.

He asserted, however, that he does not believe such conduct is in fact illegal.

<Snip>

Coppolino asked Visner how many patients a registered primary caregiver may provide pot for. At that point, Visner said the state is interfering with commerce by trying to restrict the number of customers a caregiver can have.

Coppolino then asked Visner if he's sold medical marijuana to more than five people.

"I'd say yeah," Visner replied. "There's been a lot."

Under further questioning, Visner said the state did not authorize him to be the primary caregiver of either officer he sold pot to.

The MMMA states "a primary caregiver may assist no more than five qualifying patients with their medical use of marihuana." The act also states caregivers can receive compensation from their patients.
No reduction in bail and the case was remanded over for trial. I'm glad Ted got an attorney but I wish he'd gotten a better one, why badger a cop on the stand without a legitimate point to make or the jury being present?

I wonder if Ted's pot leaf head tat is permanent?

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Post by Notorial Dissent » Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:07 pm

Sounds more like Ted testified for the prosecution.
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Post by voxpopuluxe » Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:44 pm

BAY CITY, MI -- With a pot leaf inked onto the back of his shorn head ...
So Fargo meets Breaking Bad?
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Post by Notorial Dissent » Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:02 pm

In Ted's case, more like dumb and dumber and just how dumb can he get. All I can say is he must really want a felony conviction so he can pretend to be a big now. Makes me wonder if he confessed to all his crimes on utubey like some of the geniuses do?

Every time I think I've got a handle on just how dumb Ted is, he comes up with a new one.
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Post by TheNewSaint » Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:16 pm

Notorial Dissent wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:07 pm
Sounds more like Ted testified for the prosecution.
:yeah:
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Post by MFI-Miami » Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:32 pm

Like I wrote before Ted better hope he likes bologna sandwiches and is stocked up on Astro-glide. Ted is crazy, Lubkin is a boob, Wagnener is a convicted felon and pervert, and AXJ is posting nonsensical rants in Ted's defense. What more could a whacked out wannabe drug kingpin need for a defense team? This sounds like something out of a John Waters movie.

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Post by Notorial Dissent » Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:43 am

The one thing out of this that truly does surprise me is that Ted was competent enough and ambitious enough to actually get however many plants he had growing and producing. Based on previous efforts I wouldn't have figured he could manage even something that uncomplicated, that and the actually having to do real work thing.
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Post by Foggy » Sat Nov 18, 2017 8:43 am

Notorial Dissent wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:02 pm
In Ted's case, more like dumb and dumber and just how dumb can he get.
I'm thinkin' sky's the limit here. :P
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Post by NotaPerson » Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:23 am

Notorial Dissent wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:43 am
The one thing out of this that truly does surprise me is that Ted was competent enough and ambitious enough to actually get however many plants he had growing and producing.
Many years ago I tried to grow a wee bit of weed myself. No success whatsoever.

More recently I've tried growing bell peppers and tomatoes in my backyard. Not much success with that either.

I can say, with no snark whatsoever, that Ted appears to have a genuine skill that I lack.

So good for you, Ted. :thumbs:
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Post by Notorial Dissent » Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:18 am

Foggy wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2017 8:43 am
Notorial Dissent wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:02 pm
In Ted's case, more like dumb and dumber and just how dumb can he get.
I'm thinkin' sky's the limit here. :P
:yeah:
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Post by thearmbarkid » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:13 pm

Has there been any progress with Teddy's trial?

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Post by Northland10 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:38 am

thearmbarkid wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:13 pm
Has there been any progress with Teddy's trial?
I don't know about the trial but Vinelink is reporting he was recently released on his own recognizance.
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Post by Northland10 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:44 am

He did bond out. The trial is next February and.or March. The docket and calendar show both.

The docket.
11-16-2017 BIND OVER TO CIRCUIT COURT
11-16-2017 -@ 856 W CODY ESTEY RD
11-16-2017 -MT FOREST TOWNSHIP
11-16-2017 ***SEE FILE 17-10631,
11-16-2017 -17-10630, 17-10629**
11-21-2017 ABSTRACTABLE FILE
11-21-2017 SET CASE ON CALENDAR
11-21-2017 FELONY INFORMATION DUE: 12/04/2017 8:00AM 12-04-2017
11-21-2017 GILL,HARRY P.,
11-21-2017 *TRANSCRIPT: 10/11/2017
11-21-2017 ***ARRAIGNMENT (FILED IN
11-21-2017 -17-10629)
11-28-2017 CASE REASSIGNMENT
11-28-2017 FROM: SHEERAN,JOSEPH K.,
11-28-2017 TO: GILL,HARRY P.,
12-05-2017 INFORMATION
12-06-2017 MISCELLANOUS HEARING
12-06-2017 -DEFT PRESENT;
12-06-2017 -BOND HEARING-PR BOND 100,000
12-06-2017 -BOND GRANTED W/ CONDITIONS
12-06-2017 -BELOW;
12-06-2017 -ORAL MOTION TO DISMISS CASE
12-06-2017 -DENIED;
12-06-2017 -DEFT DOES NOT WANT D PRICE
12-06-2017 -AND F ANTHONY LUBKIN TO
12-06-2017 -REPRESENT HIM ANY LONGER;
12-06-2017 -COURT ALLOWS T SOMBERG TO
12-06-2017 -ENTER HIS APPEARANCE ON
12-06-2017 -RECORD AND BE SUBSTITUTED IN
12-06-2017 -TO REPRESENT DEFT;
12-06-2017 -DEFT NOT TO POSSESS FIREARMS
12-06-2017 -NOR ARE FIREAMRS TO BE
12-06-2017 -WITHIN HIS AREA OF CONTROL;
12-06-2017 -DEFT SHALL HAVE NO VIOLATIONS
12-06-2017 -OF ANY CRIMINAL LAWS OF
12-06-2017 -STATE OF MICHIGAN;
12-06-2017 -GAG ORDER IN EFFECT ON BOTH
12-06-2017 -SIDES (CONTENT ON THE RECORD)
12-06-2017 -THE OTHER STANDARD BOND
12-06-2017 -CONDITIONS APPLY;
12-06-2017 -REMANDED TO CUSTODY;
12-06-2017 -TO BE RELEASED;
12-06-2017 -DEFT WAIVES READING OF
12-06-2017 -INFORMATIONS AND ENTERS NOT
12-06-2017 -GUILTY PLEAS;
12-06-2017
12-06-2017 ACTION IN COURT FILED
12-06-2017 SCHEDULING ORDER
12-06-2017 JURY TRIAL: 02/06/2018 8:30AM 02-06-2018
12-06-2017 GILL,HARRY P.,
12-06-2017 SET CASE ON CALENDAR
12-06-2017 JURY TRIAL: 03/06/2018 8:30AM 03-06-2018
12-06-2017 GILL,HARRY P.,
12-06-2017 SET CASE ON CALENDAR
12-06-2017 TRIAL MANAGEMENT CONFERENCE: 02/01/2018 8:10AM 02-01-2018
12-06-2017 GILL,HARRY P.,
12-06-2017 SET CASE ON CALENDAR
12-06-2017 TRIAL MANAGEMENT CONFERENCE: 02/28/2018 1:10PM 02-28-2018
12-06-2017 GILL,HARRY P.,
12-06-2017 FROM: LUBKIN,F. ANTHONY,
12-06-2017 TO: SOMBERG,NICHOLAS,
12-06-2017 BOND POSTED
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Post by JohnPCapitalist » Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:55 pm

Apparently, Ted has a hearing on a motion to dismiss tomorrow. From a post on aging oath-obsessed crank Arnie Rosner's site at https://scannedretina.files.wordpress.c ... people.pdf:
From: Michigan Justice League <mijusticeleague@gmail.com>
Subject: Visner Hearing
Date: April 23, 2018 at 7:50:43 AM PDT
To: David Lonier <davidlonier@gmail.com>,

The attached document will be printed and handed out to any supporters that show up on
Tuesday (tomorrow) to my court hearing to dismiss in Bay County Michigan.

Download and print out for additional flyers to pas out as hand-outs.

Felony Crime by Michigan Police Leads to Arrest

My hearing is at 1:00pm but I will be there at 11:30 to meet and talk to supporters.

I could only afford to print a dozen so I may run out.

Thank you for your help and support!

Ted Visner
(989) 954-2814
Ted must be mighty broke if he can only afford 12 copies even at $0.03 per page. And it sounds like he's acknowledging that his cause might not be all that popular, speaking in the subjunctive about "any supporters that show up" instead of talking about the throngs of supporters he has.

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Post by Grumpy Old Guy » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:04 pm

JohnPCapitalist wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:55 pm
Apparently, Ted has a hearing on a motion to dismiss tomorrow. From a post on aging oath-obsessed crank Arnie Rosner's site at https://scannedretina.files.wordpress.c ... people.pdf:
From: Michigan Justice League <mijusticeleague@gmail.com>
Subject: Visner Hearing
Date: April 23, 2018 at 7:50:43 AM PDT
To: David Lonier <davidlonier@gmail.com>,

The attached document will be printed and handed out to any supporters that show up on
Tuesday (tomorrow) to my court hearing to dismiss in Bay County Michigan.

Download and print out for additional flyers to pas out as hand-outs.
:snippity:
Ted Visner
(989) 954-2814
Ted must be mighty broke if he can only afford 12 copies even at $0.03 per page. And it sounds like he's acknowledging that his cause might not be all that popular, speaking in the subjunctive about "any supporters that show up" instead of talking about the throngs of supporters he has.

I am sure that will go well for our hero. :sarcasm:

Can anyone simulate a cell phone to send him a text that 20 friends are coming?

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Post by TheNewSaint » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:11 pm

Grumpy Old Guy wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:04 pm
Can anyone simulate a cell phone to send him a text that 20 friends are coming?
Be careful, one text message might drain his pay-as-you-go balance. :-D
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Post by Notorial Dissent » Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:09 am

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: Not to mention use up all his minutes allowance.
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Post by GlimDropper » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:39 pm


Ted Visner
4 hrs ·
I am entering the den of the dragon today and not afraid to admit that I am scared. The walls of the den have already been papered with the attached un-desputable final judgment slander sheet about me prepared absent proofs and absent due process.

Please send thoughts and prayers.
In comments to that post Ted basically brags about doing a little bear poking:
TViz2.JPG
I still am of two minds on Ted's pot charges. Michigan's medical MJ laws are very poorly written and I don't really like to see anyone getting jail time for weed. On the other hand Ted didn't really try to remain within the spirit of the MJ law even though he had to know they'd keep an eye on him. That and his own native genius for taking any problem he has and making it just so much worse. All that being said I hope he gets the lightest sentence possible.

ETA: Ted's Trail Event Page:


Including this nugget dingleberry:

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Post by Notorial Dissent » Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:23 pm

GlimDropper wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:39 pm

Including this nugget dingleberry:

Yeah, that'll be such a great help to him. He's already in so much trouble that getting Johnny Two Names to scribble something for him to up his sentence.

It's almost scary to see someone dumber than Teddy, but then Teddy does have that one talent.

Teddy is in the trouble he's in because he won't even attempt to play nicely with others, so I don't think it would matter hoe well written the law was he'd find a way to break it. Ted has a big mouth, a REALLY big chip on his shoulder, and an ability to really piss people off. And Teddy is also really really dumb, to the point of being self destructive, as witness him getting himself on the LEO dangerous individual warning sheets.
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Post by JohnPCapitalist » Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:03 pm

GlimDropper wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:39 pm
Including this nugget dingleberry:

Isn't Ted in the orbit of Destry Payne and the "Michigan General Jural Assembly," the bunch that pretend judge Anna is always shilling for? They don't like the NLA because John Vidurek and the handful of remaining clowns at the NLA pretend grand jury club are pretending wrong. If I'm remembering it correctly, that makes it unlikely that Ted will go to the "enemy."

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Post by Notorial Dissent » Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:23 pm

See my previous "plays well with others" comment, Destry is equally cray cray, but he doesn't share and Teddy will want to be the bigshot running things, so don't think so.
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