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RoadScholar wrote: Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:39 pm 501? Is there some esoteric meaning to that?
he's comfortable filing that in his Levi's?


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DejaMoo wrote: Thu Mar 29, 2018 2:00 pm C'mon - it took this to make that obvious?
Eh,I can see people going down rabbit holes of pseudo-legal theory. Understanding law from the outside can be tricky and real/fake law can look a lot alike sometimes.

Not understanding how shadows work though? That goes beyond stupid and into something else.


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neeneko wrote: Thu Mar 29, 2018 2:36 pm
DejaMoo wrote: Thu Mar 29, 2018 2:00 pm C'mon - it took this to make that obvious?
Eh,I can see people going down rabbit holes of pseudo-legal theory. Understanding law from the outside can be tricky and real/fake law can look a lot alike sometimes.

Not understanding how shadows work though? That goes beyond stupid and into something else.
Even Lucky Luke knew how to shoot faster than his shadow ;)


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Words of wisdom from some dude named Jerry (never heard of him before).
The UNITED STATES is a corporation, and Congress is a 'body politic' - both being Roman style incorporations (make-believe ships) under the original creation/ownership of the Pontifex Maximus (Pope) of the (still existent) Holy Roman Empire. All Roman Law documents (so-called constitutions; but, in fact, are 'ship's orders' of make-believe ships), when used as the guide to operate a country under Roman Law, always contain a "notwithstanding" clause. (In the US Constitution, it is the 'general welfare' clause). This allows the "captain of the ship", the President, or a designated officer (judge or Cabinet member) leave to disregard any provision of such a constitution at his discretion. 'The CAPTAIN may deviate from ANY 'rules or regulations' when he DEEMS it necessary 'for the GOOD of the ship.' That is a basic maxim of the Law of the Sea, and totally within the 'common sense' realm of operating a ship relative to safety and profitability; however, it is devastating to the unalienable rights of an individual free will man or woman living upon the land.
Here is his nutty page https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id ... 6&fref=ufi


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KC Massey / KC Massey III is mentioned in a few other threads here.

Earl Conlon
Follow · 7 hrs ·

Kc Massey lll is BACK and he has some thing on his mind.....
Join us Monday night — with Brian Henderson, Rick Bloom, Ammon Bundy and 47 others.



some comments:
Thomas Lacovara-Stewart Amen, the man should have never gone to prison or even have been bothered at all!!
2h

Bobby Ritter Talked to him Saturday. Most of you won't wanna hear what he has to say. Be forwarned.
2h

Sally Telford ????
1h

Bobby Ritter Sally Telford if I said anything, wouldn't be reason for a show. Listen in.
1h

FWIW:
KC Massey III shared a link.
October 20, 2015 (last post)
https://www.facebook.com/kevin.kc.massey?ref=br_rs

Kevin KC Massey
@freeKCMassey
Public Figure
https://www.facebook.com/freeKCMassey/

Kevin KC Massey @freeKCMassey
April 4 at 5:26pm ·
I just talked with KC, He is out and in a halfway house He expect to be out of the halfway in the middle of June.


ETA: above = join us Monday night — with Brian Henderson, Rick Bloom, Ammon Bundy and 47 others.
He tagged:
with Brian Henderson, Rick Bloom, Ammon Bundy, Eric Smith, Vincent Easley II, Anna von Reitz, Steven Barker, Doug Brown, John Lamb, Thomas Lacovara-Stewart, Sharon Henderson, Charlotte Sines, Smith A Russell, Robert Beecher III, John Michael Sudol, Annie Olivo-Champagne, Sam Houston III, Dave Anderson, Austin Thomas, LeAnna Ehrhardt, Ben Greenwood III, Jeanette Finicum, Jim Schultz, Donna Slagle, Brett Vogel III, Steph Stigall, Heather Elliott III, Christina Dahlquist III, David McCoy III, Jan Mitchell III, Allison Fey, Lee Sutterlin, Spencer Green, Billy J. Burns III, Gabriel Kassab III, Mitch Ruloff, Sam Adams III, J.R. Ilsm Roland III, Van Rensselaer Porter III, Michael Casey III, Rick G Greenwood, Sandy Anderson III, Jason Peters III, Robert Edward Vanasco III, Jon Scott III, Jerry Cartwright III, Chad Wilson III, Bobby Benetti III, John H. Bundy III and Judi Lake III.


This post appears on Vincent Easley II page
Earl Conlon is with Jeanette Finicum and 76 others.
too much trouble to copy/paste. Sorry


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Dolly wrote: Sun Apr 08, 2018 6:58 pm KC Massey / KC MasseyIII is mentioned in a few other threads here.
A quick refresher from the SPL:

Texas Border Militia Leader Sentenced to Prison
January 06, 2016

Bill Morlin

Felon Kevin "KC" Lyndel Massey of "Rusty's Rangers," who ran a vigilante-style border patrol operation, sentenced to prison for firearms violations.

A Texas militia leader – part of a group that vowed to shoot or arrest anyone caught crossing into the United States from Mexico – will spend 41 months in federal prison after being convicted of being a felon in possession of firearms.

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On Aug. 31 of that year, U.S. Border Patrol agents conducting routine patrols came across Massey and another member of Rusty’s Rangers, John Frederick Foerster. A federal agent shot at, but did not hit Foerster when he initially refused to drop his firearm.

After that incident, agents searched Massey’s motel room and discovered 2,600 rounds of ammunition and ammonium nitrate and fuel which investigators said could have been combined to make a deadly improvised explosive device.

Because an actual bomb had not been assembled, Massey was not charged with illegal possession of those components. He was, however, charged with four counts of being a felon in possession of a firearm, related to three handguns and a rifle found in his possession.

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At trial, Massey and his attorney attempted without success to argue that the firearms charges should be dismissed because the defendant was only involved with intrastate possession of firearms. The federal charges are based on laws regulating interstate travel of firearms -- from the point of origin or importation to the seller to the firearm owner.
Massey wasn't the first, or last, to fail using that argument.


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Gary Hunt is buddies with Massey and has been giving updates about him on his FB page. Evidently Massey's wife divorced him and sold their house while he was in prison. He is looking for a place to stay now. From Hunt's FB page - posted about an hour ago.
I just spoke with Kevin "KC" Massey. He was on his way to Church from the Halfway House. He prefers, at this time, to not communicate with others. He is under rather strict control.
As far as help. he has money. He is not allowed Internet access, though he will continue to communicate through me.
To get out of the Halfway House, he needs a place to stay. Kristy divorced him after he was convicted. Then she sold the house, So, he needs a place to stay.
Now, if he stays with someone, they have to be inspected. No firearms are allowed in the house, They can come any time, without a warrant, and search.
KC has money and he can share expenses.
That is the only help he needs. However, it has to be in the Northern Federal Judicial District of Texas.


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looks like slim pickins for an abode.


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GlimDropper wrote: Sun Apr 08, 2018 7:54 pm
Dolly wrote: Sun Apr 08, 2018 6:58 pm KC Massey / KC MasseyIII is mentioned in a few other threads here.
A quick refresher from the SPL:

Texas Border Militia Leader Sentenced to Prison
January 06, 2016
:snippity:
After that incident, agents searched Massey’s motel room and discovered 2,600 rounds of ammunition and ammonium nitrate and fuel which investigators said could have been combined to make a deadly improvised explosive device.
:snippity: .
I wonder what the motel owner had to say after that stuff was found. Could have eradicated his establishment for sure :doh:


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Ah, the glory days if the militia boarder patrols where KC was nabbed for felon in possession, Kessler ran around shooting rodents, and Stanley Blaine tossed garbage bags over the border (did he think it was Canada - no littering, no bad language).

American heros don't run around with the makings for powerful IEDs. Only terrorists do that. Why would he need that for immigrant patrols?


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Northland10 wrote: Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:12 am American heros don't run around with the makings for powerful IEDs. Only terrorists do that. Why would he need that for immigrant patrols?
To kill immigrants, who deserve whatever they get, obviously. :sarcasm:
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Anyone else listening to the show (noted above) with KC Massey?

He is raving, calling all the armchair warriors cowards and worse. Pretty damn crazy.

Call in number: 347-855-8301


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DejaMoo wrote: Mon Apr 09, 2018 1:05 pm
Northland10 wrote: Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:12 am American heros don't run around with the makings for powerful IEDs. Only terrorists do that. Why would he need that for immigrant patrols?
To kill immigrants, who deserve whatever they get, obviously. :sarcasm:
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Suranis wrote: Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:05 am
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neeneko wrote: Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:09 am
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Sam the Centipede wrote: Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:05 pm
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Not my post, boots ... and no on the one I mentioned (the water in system drive trick); I can't recall if I had a copy then (early/mid 1980s).


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LtDansLegs wrote: Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:58 am
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:hijacked:


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kickaha wrote: Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:43 am:hijacked:
Think of it less as 'hijacking' and more 'discussing potential mitigations to an intractable problem.'


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Man who cites opposition to abortion for not paying taxes wins Round 1 in court
By Maxine Bernstein mbernstein@oregonian.com
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A federal judge has dismissed a felony tax evasion charge against a man who describes himself as a Christian who refuses to give money to the government to support abortion.

U.S. District Judge Michael W. Mosman ruled that the government's indictment failed to provide any evidence that Michael Bowman tried to conceal or mislead government officials by simply cashing his checks and keeping a low bank balance so tax collectors couldn't garnish his account to pay taxes.
I'm fine with him not paying taxes as long as he only uses private roads and paths to travel around. He should be cited with trespass, and theft of service every time he drives on a highway.

I'm also convinced the government is incapable of convicting a bologna sammich these days. Something has changed. The long arm of the law has gotten arthritic.


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Bill_G wrote: Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:33 am
I'm also convinced the government is incapable of convicting a bologna sammich these days. Something has changed. The long arm of the law has gotten arthritic.
Depends what they were charged with. It seems that the man's actions - cashing all checks and maintaining low account balances - did not meet the requirement for felony tax evasion. Which it may not. He still faces 4 counts of failure to file, and the prosecution can refile the felony charge.

IMHO some of the worst failures to prosecute are caused by the prosecution pressing the wrong charge.


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