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Re: Kenny's quixotic bid for OR-2 (aka SOJ-2)

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:44 am
by Notorial Dissent
At least then someone would be paying attention, and we know no one is.

Re: Kenny's quixotic bid for OR-2 (aka SOJ-2)

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 1:00 pm
by Northland10
jmj wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:45 am
ZekeB wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:20 am
I've lived near neighbors like him. We never hated them. We merely referred to them as the local nut jobs. Kenny: Your neighbors don't hate you. They are laughing at you behind your back.
Bingo, but it makes them feel important to imagine that people hate them.
Victimhood must be sustained. Disagreeing with them or their ideas are same as hating.

Re: Kenny's quixotic bid for OR-2 (aka SOJ-2)

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:50 pm
by Foggy
jmj wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:45 am
Bingo, but it makes them feel important to imagine that people hate them.
When we were fighting the birthers for all those years, it really made them feel important to claim we were being paid for mocking them and belittling their ideas. It was an article of faith among them that Fogbow was being funded by Soros and the "international banksters" (hint, hint, wink, wink, say no more).

Woulda been nice, too. :daydream:

Re: Kenny's quixotic bid for OR-2 (aka SOJ-2)

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:52 pm
by ZekeB
I never engaged in political dialog with those types. If I'm going to discuss something like that I want to hear the other point of view from a more intelligent source. Just know that I'd feel the same way about someone who festoons their yard with a Dem signs as well.

Re: Kenny's quixotic bid for OR-2 (aka SOJ-2)

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:11 am
by scirreeve
Kenny has a petition he calls a "social compact" to abolish the government and for the evil government to vacate the premises- that'll work for sure Kenny!
Kenneth W Medenbach
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Print this social compact get it signed. Send it to the Oregon Capitol.
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Re: Kenny's quixotic bid for OR-2 (aka SOJ-2)

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:55 am
by Azastan
But he's running for office in this government?

Re: Kenny's quixotic bid for OR-2 (aka SOJ-2)

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 11:26 am
by Frater I*I
Azastan wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:55 am
But he's running for office in this government?
:yeah:

:confused:

Re: Kenny's quixotic bid for OR-2 (aka SOJ-2)

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 11:50 am
by pipistrelle
Frater I*I wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2020 11:26 am
Azastan wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:55 am
But he's running for office in this government?
:yeah:

:confused:
You have to bring down the government from the inside.

Once there are no rules or laws and every man for himself, let's bring our 2nd Amendment toys and turn his "home" into an outdoor lav. :-)

Re: Kenny's quixotic bid for OR-2 (aka SOJ-2)

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:44 am
by scirreeve
Kenny's "plan" is great. I am sure it will work.
Debbie Richey How many signatures does it need to make it work??I would be willing to get some signatures,,, they think we are so stupid!!
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Kenneth W Medenbach There is no set number, but the more the better. Eventually, we are going to have to show up at the Capitol and abolish the government in such manner as we may think proper. Blocking streets with junk cars so no one can get to work at the capitol. I know honking semi trucks irritates workers inside. Just make it so nobody can work.

Re: Kenny's quixotic bid for OR-2 (aka SOJ-2)

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:14 am
by JohnPCapitalist
scirreeve wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:11 am
Kenny has a petition he calls a "social compact" to abolish the government and for the evil government to vacate the premises- that'll work for sure Kenny!
Kenneth W Medenbach
9 hrs ·
Print this social compact get it signed. Send it to the Oregon Capitol.
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Declaring the government null and void worked well for Thomas David of the House of Deegan in West Virginia.

It worked even better for pretend judge Bruce Doucette and the rest of the Colorado pretend judge and pretend grand jury LARPer crowd. As you may recall, they initially got started by declaring that all of the elected officials in Colorado did not have valid Oaths of office on file, and demanded their resignation. When that was utterly ignored, despite dozens of rounds of letters sent out demanding that they quit, they moved on to retaliating against people involved in Court decisions adverse to them or their supporters by filing fraudulent liens against their property.

Re: Kenny's quixotic bid for OR-2 (aka SOJ-2)

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:05 am
by scirreeve
Kenny's plan was a big fail.

Re: Kenny's quixotic bid for OR-2 (aka SOJ-2)

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 5:16 am
by ZekeB
If he lets any mud slip under that fence because of his failure to use Best Management Practices, I'm going to have him arrested.

Re: Kenny's quixotic bid for OR-2 (aka SOJ-2)

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:58 am
by June bug
Northland10 wrote:Years ago I was at a community meeting regarding a possible bond election for school construction. One of the nuts made a comment. I did not realize that if enough people rolled their eyes at the same time, there's an audible sound.
:rotflmao: :rotflmao:

Re: Kenny's quixotic bid for OR-2 (aka SOJ-2)

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:21 pm
by Ghost of LaVoy F*cum
scirreeve wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:05 am
Kenny's plan was a big fail.
It's convenient how Kenny & many others in the #bundycult define "the people" as only the small group of those who agree with them & while excluding anyone who doesn't.

Re: Kenny's quixotic bid for OR-2 (aka SOJ-2)

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:02 pm
by ZekeB
Ghost of LaVoy F*cum wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:21 pm
It's convenient how Kenny & many others in the #bundycult define "the people" as only the small group of those who agree with them & while excluding anyone who doesn't.
If they aren't seated at the big round table at Denny's at 10:00AM on Saturday morning, they don't count.

Re: Kenny's quixotic bid for OR-2 (aka SOJ-2)

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 3:21 am
by scirreeve
Kenny abolished everything.
Kenneth W Medenbach is feeling happy.
59 mins ·
Subpoenas issued to absent and unexcused House members:

reads as follows:
"By virtue of the authority of and in compliance with ORS 171.510, and following a majority vote of the House Rules Committee on February 27, 2020, I, Paul Holvey, State Representative and Chair of the House Rules Committee, hereby require you to appear before the House Rules Committee at 1pm on Thursday, March 5, 2020 in Hearing Room F of the State Capitol, Salem, Oregon, 97301, as a witness before such committee and be prepared to testify about your unexcused absences during the 2020 regular session of the Legislative Assembly, the need for members to fulfill their oaths of office and constitutional duties as legislators by attending sessions of the Legislative Assembly, and how the work of the Legislative Assembly during the 2020 calendar year may be completed."

This is how the subpoenas issued to absent and unexcused House members should read as follows:

"By virtue of the authority of and in compliance with Article 1, Section 1 Oregon Constitution and following the social compact formed by Kenneth W Medenbach and David Zion Brugger, did hereby abolish the present government of Oregon and ordered the Capitol vacated immediately, in oral testimony before the Joint Subcommittee On Natural Resources February 19, 2020."
(See video below)

"The majority vote of the abolished House Rules Committee on February 27, 2020, where Paul Holvey, abolished State Representative and abolished Chair of the abolished House Rules Committee, requiring absent and unexcused abolished House members to appear before the abolished House Rules Committee at 1pm on Thursday, March 5, 2020 in abolished Hearing Room F of the abolished State Capitol, Oregon, 97301, as a witness before such abolished Committee and be prepared to testify about unexcused absences during the abolished 2020 regular session of the abolished Legislative Assembly, the need for abolished members to fulfill their oaths of office and constitutional duties of abolished legislators by attending abolished sessions of the abolished Legislative Assembly, and how the work of the abolished Legislative Assembly during the abolished 2020 calendar year may be completed."
Did I mention everything is abolished.

Re: Kenny's quixotic bid for OR-2 (aka SOJ-2)

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:46 am
by Notorial Dissent
Did I mention NO ONE CARES...........

Re: Kenny's quixotic bid for OR-2 (aka SOJ-2)

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:37 am
by scirreeve
Kenny was on the teevee last night at a candidate forum. He spouted his usual nonsense.
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This is the Townhall style Republican Candidate Forum for Congressional District 2 held last night at the Oregon Institute of Technology in Klamath Falls.
Trying to explain to people, we can't depend on government to do the right thing, we have to do it ourselves!
Sekrit Stuffs!

Re: Kenny's quixotic bid for OR-2 (aka SOJ-2)

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:24 am
by pipistrelle
Trying to explain to people, we can't depend on government to do the right thing, we have to do it ourselves!
By getting elected to government!

I doubt Kenny the Quixotic understands that his "right thing" ain't my right thing.

Re: Kenny's quixotic bid for OR-2 (aka SOJ-2)

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:16 am
by Northland10
pipistrelle wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:24 am
Trying to explain to people, we can't depend on government to do the right thing, we have to do it ourselves!
By getting elected to government!

I doubt Kenny the Quixotic understands that his "right thing" ain't my right thing.
He's a little confused on how this republic and democracy thing works. I'm still confused about him running a government position since he and that Zion dude abolished it.

Kenny and other poots love to compare themselves to the colonial patriots, but they were not some group of revolting people. The revolution was controlled and funded by a Continental Congress made up of members representing the colonial legislatures (well, as best as they could given the Crown's tendacy to abolish them). Even the south in the civil war was still controlled by elected governments.

Funny how they think that 2 unelected people abolishing a democratically elected government is somehow an excercise in liberty. It seems sort of the opposite.

Re: Kenny's quixotic bid for OR-2 (aka SOJ-2)

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:43 am
by scirreeve
More of Kenny's wisdom from the candidate forum. I have thought for a while that Ammo's next STAND might be over the Klamath Basin/water rights thing he mentions. We shall see.
Kenneth W Medenbach
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This is more of the Townhall Republican Candidate Forum for Congressional District 2 held last Monday night at the Oregon Institute of Technology in Klamath Falls.
Explaining why federal government can't own lands in the states, the corruption of the United States Supreme Court and almost taking over the head gates two years ago feeding the Klamath Basin to make sure the farmers and ranchers got water for their crops and cattle, to feed America.
Sekrit Stuffs!

Re: Kenny's quixotic bid for OR-2 (aka SOJ-2)

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:02 am
by scirreeve

Re: Kenny's quixotic bid for OR-2 (aka SOJ-2)

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:02 am
by scirreeve
Kenny has words.Mostly about oaths and Marbury etc. (his favorite topics) but also about abortion and whatever. He has no chance to win.
Kenneth W Medenbach
17 hrs ·
The framers of our Constitution intended to and thought they had created a system of federalism in which the states and the federal government co-exist. The federal government would be one of limited, enumerated powers and could assert only those powers specifically granted by the Constitution. All other powers were reserved to the states and the people and any action by a state government was valid unless it violated some specific limitation imposed by the U.S. Constitution. Nowhere in the U.S. Constitution is the United States Supreme Court delegated the power to interpret the U.S. Constitution, nor a right to abortion. There is no constitutional basis for either power or right.

By engaging in clever reasoning and wordplay, the first United States Congress imposed a second oath of office on federal judges in the Judiciary Act of 1789 to, "understanding agreeably to the constitution," then in 1803, in Marbury v Madison the United States Supreme Court used that second oath of office to "understanding agreeably to the constitution," to give themselves the power to interpret the constitution.

Then in 1973, that same unconstitutional United States Supreme Court examined the 14th Amendment and its “liberty” clause and from that carved out a “right to privacy.” However, by including abortion in the privacy interest that unconstitutional U.S. Supreme Court — nine unelected, life-tenured federal judges — took the issue away from the states and from the Congress and, moving well beyond its proper judicial role, acted as a super-legislature and imposed its own social and cultural preferences in regards to abortion.
These are highly illegitimate exercises of legal power. There is no delegated power to interpret the constitution in the constitution, nor a "right to privacy," in the Constitution, but even if there were a right to privacy, it cannot be thought to include the right to abort a baby — a separate and distinct human being.
When dealing with abortion issues, I'm always reminded of Luke 1:41,
"And it happened, when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, that the babe leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit."
When in Congress, l will be tenacious on these two issues.

Re: Kenny's quixotic bid for OR-2 (aka SOJ-2)

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:57 am
by JohnPCapitalist
scirreeve wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:02 am
Kenny has words.Mostly about oaths and Marbury etc. (his favorite topics) but also about abortion and whatever. He has no chance to win.
Kenneth W Medenbach
17 hrs ·
The framers of our Constitution intended to and thought they had created a system of federalism in which the states and the federal government co-exist. The federal government would be one of limited, enumerated powers and could assert only those powers specifically granted by the Constitution. All other powers were reserved to the states and the people and any action by a state government was valid unless it violated some specific limitation imposed by the U.S. Constitution. Nowhere in the U.S. Constitution is the United States Supreme Court delegated the power to interpret the U.S. Constitution, nor a right to abortion. There is no constitutional basis for either power or right.
A friend's son is in law school, and has some knowledge of and fascination with sovereign citizens. I was speaking with him recently about various forms of nuttery, including Kenny's obsession with relitigating Marbury v. Madison, and he guffawed loudly at the suggestion that a petty criminal will successfully challenge that landmark decision and get the Supreme Court to grant cert on the issue and say "whoops! M vs. M is as badly decided as Dred Scott, and we're going to toss it."

Why does Kenny's idee fixe sound so much like an exercise in a foolish old man tilting at windmills?

Re: Kenny's quixotic bid for OR-2 (aka SOJ-2)

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 2:19 am
by scirreeve
Kenny made a STAND today - thread with just 2 posts by some idiot.