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Chilidog wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 1:33 pm What are the odds that in the next round of motions to be filed, Lake's lawyers will try to make at least one argument that is barred by laches and or by the instructions given by the AZSC.
I would say that is pretty much a given for Team Lake.
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UPDATE, 5/9, 12:30pm: Kari Lake's attorneys are expected to file a motion today to combine her Election Contest with a public records lawsuit to obtain ballot envelopes. The judge in the latter case is now recusing himself, adding some (temporary) uncertainty into the proceedings.

Judge Michael Gordon was assigned to the We the People public records suit on April 28. The Minute Entry recusing himself - without a stated reason - was filed this morning. Civil Presiding Judge Danielle Viola will assign a new judge to the case.

An interesting outcome could be that she taps Judge Peter Thompson to handle the related matter, as consolidation of the two very statutorily-driven cases seems unlikely. (Thompson has been handling the Election Contest.) He would then be better able to manage the interplay between them.
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In other Lake news...
Kari Lake to meet with senators as she inches closer to Senate bid
Lake would likely galvanize Trump supporters.

Arizona Republican Kari Lake, the outspoken Donald Trump supporter eyeing a run for the Senate, is planning to meet with at least a half-dozen U.S. senators and officials from the Senate GOP’s campaign arm this week in Washington, D.C.

The Thursday visit, confirmed by a spokesperson for Lake, is the latest in a series of recent signs that the conservative firebrand is inching closer toward a Senate bid. It also will mark the second time this year that she has sat down with staff from the National Republican Senatorial Committee.

If Lake throws her hat in the ring, she would run for the seat held by Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, the Democrat-turned-independent who has not yet said whether she is seeking reelection. Rep. Ruben Gallego has already declared he’s running for the Democratic nomination.

Lake would likely galvanize Trump supporters to the point that many Republicans think she would be all but impossible to defeat in a primary. But GOP strategists are concerned that Lake would turn off swing voters in the general election, particularly after she contested her loss in the gubernatorial contest in 2022.
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https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/0 ... d-00096038
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Fontes is looking to get the last one tossed.
Fontes' Supplemental Memorandum In Support of Motion to Dismiss
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raison de arizona wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 6:46 pm Fontes is looking to get the last one tossed.
Fontes' Supplemental Memorandum In Support of Motion to Dismiss
Maricopa County and Gov. Hobbs should have filed dismissal motions yesterday too, also but I have not see those posted anywhere.
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Sam the Centipede wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 4:10 pm
Chilidog wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 3:46 pmTwo assholes
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Oh man, I'm gonna steal that and use it instead of the like button we have. :mrgreen:
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Reality Check wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 10:39 am
raison de arizona wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 6:46 pm Fontes is looking to get the last one tossed.
Fontes' Supplemental Memorandum In Support of Motion to Dismiss
Maricopa County and Gov. Hobbs should have filed dismissal motions yesterday too, also but I have not see those posted anywhere.

Uploaded here

https://arizonaslaw.blogspot.com/2023/0 ... y.html?m=1


Bonus filing by Ryan Heath.


**EDIT**

I just noticed.....

Lake failed to file any memorandum of law in regards to the remanded Count III.

Instead she tries to reopen a dead issue. I.e. reconsideration of a previously dismissed claim, the Logic and Accuracy testing.


How does that work?
While I'm sure she can file a reply to the defendants MoLs, in re Count 3, they can't respond to her non-argument. Because she didn't make any….

Do they file two responses? one addressing Lake's L&A testing claims, and another stating that "as to count III, she didn't make any legal arguments to support her position? " Or something legal to that effect.

or do they ask for an extension of time to file a reply to Lake’s response, should she ever file one?
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Chilidog wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 12:52 pm :snippity:

Uploaded here

https://arizonaslaw.blogspot.com/2023/0 ... y.html?m=1


Bonus filing by Ryan Heath.


**EDIT**

I just noticed.....

Lake failed to file any memorandum of law in regards to the remanded Count III.

Instead she tries to reopen a dead issue. I.e. reconsideration of a previously dismissed claim, the Logic and Accuracy testing.


How does that work?
While I'm sure she can file a reply to the defendants motions, in re Count 3, they can't respond to her non-argument. Because she didn't make any?

Do they file two, one addressing Lake's L&A testing claims, and another stating that "as to count III, she didn't make any legal arguments to support her position? " Or something legal to that effect.
Thanks! The ones from Gov. Hobbs and MC must have shown up shortly after I checked the AZ Law blog. I read the better part of Hobbs MTD. I am leaning towards a dismissal on the filings without a trial but that's a guess. I thought the MTD presented a solid argument that the law does not allow for challenging the subjective judgment of the Recorder on signature consistency especially in an election contest.

The MC MTD points out that Lake's claims on signature inconsistencies are largely based on an analysis of ballot envelope signatures from the 2020 election and not 2022. Regardless, the challenges from the 2020 election were also dismissed.
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another issue that has not been discussed, but the law specifically requires the county to allow voters whose signatures are rejected the opportunity to cure their ballots.

there are specific deadlines attached to that which have long since passed.

i can not see any possible scenario where rejecting signatures at this point would be workable.
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Chilidog wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 3:44 pm :snippity:
i can not see any possible scenario where rejecting signatures at this point would be workable.
Agree. Rejecting previously counted ballots would be a clusterf--k of stupendous proportion that is hard to believe the law would allow.
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Kari snookums is also willfully ignoring all the reasons the judge gave in the original trial for why 99 percent of her issues would not in a million years result in a new election (good faith of the election workers; not enough affected votes; and as I recall, the how-dumb-can-you-get response, otherwise known as "If the court agreed with your points, it would never be possible to hold a fair election again."

She wants a declaration of vicotory; she's gonna get a housekeeping chore.
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I'm not sure if there is a separated thread, but Alan Dershowitz is going to have some 'splainin to do to a Federal Judge.

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Jen Fifield @JenAFifield wrote: An update on the Kari Lake case after spending a *while* reading court briefings yesterday:

Her attorneys are asking the court to reopen a claim that Maricopa County didn't follow law for pre-election testing, saying they have new evidence that shows wrongdoing and fraud.

The AZ Supreme Court had already affirmed the trial court's decision to dismiss this claim. The Supreme Court just had told the trial court to reconsider a voter signature claim.

So Lake wants court to consider both: Trial on signature issue? Reopen closed testing claim?

There's a hearing set for tomorrow morning.

On the signature verification claim, Fontes asks court to dismiss without trial. "Arizonans have been through enough." County has yet (from what I can see online) to respond to NEW claims about testing.

Key to all this: Missing from Lake attorney's new filings are any deeper explanation to the proof they have that there was fraud or wrongdoing that was off by more than 17,000 votes (overturn the result).

That's what the courts have told them they need.

Please keep this in mind when hearing new claims from Kari Lake trial - circulating now, to be presented more in full tomorrow.

So far, she has not convinced the courts she has a claim and evidence on that claim to show the results were incorrect or there was fraud.
https://twitter.com/JenAFifield/status/ ... 07072?s=20

In an alternate reality, Lake's camp take:
Kari Lake War Room @KariLakeWarRoom wrote: 🚨Maricopa Malice🚨

There are more bombshells to come at our 9AM hearing tomorrow.

"New evidence also shows that Director of Elections Scott Jarrett gave FALSE TESTIMONY at trial concerning the BOD printers failures that caused the look to malfunction.*
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:shock: :confuzzled: what mechanic did Kari find who has evidence how the printers malfunctioned in a different way than the investigation released (wrong type of printer for high-volume printing in a short period of time) :?:
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raison de arizona wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 1:10 pm
Jen Fifield @JenAFifield wrote: .......

Key to all this: Missing from Lake attorney's new filings are any deeper explanation to the proof they have that there was fraud or wrongdoing that was off by more than 17,000 votes (overturn the result).

That's what the courts have told them they need.
https://twitter.com/JenAFifield/status/ ... 07072?s=20
Actually, what's missing is Lake's Memorandum of law addressing the issues raised by the Arizona Supreme Court.

Remember this order?
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents ... reme-court

Thompson pulled the plug on the time table because of the sanctions issue, but as far as I know, that reset and to the motion to dismiss is still in play. I don't think Lake's attorneys are following that.
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Kari Lake @KariLake wrote: Masterful performance by @realDonaldTrump at his #CNNTownhall tonight.

If @kaitlancollins thought she could win a debate with the 45th & 47th President of the United States of America, she was sadly mistaken.
It was a town hall, not a debate.
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Chilidog wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 4:32 pm Hobbs telling Lake to FOAD

https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-cont ... sponse.pdf
That's a good one :thumbsup:
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So, there are a few responses, reports and replays that were supposed to be filed by this morning.

Other than Hobbs, I don't know if they were.

AZ law blog has not updated since Wednesday morning.

There is an oral argument scheduled for today. Don't know when.
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This Twitter thread is covering the hearing.
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So, lake doubled down on the stupid and the defendants shredded their arguments.
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Our friend young Ryan Heath jumped in during the hearing to say something about something THAT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT (just ask him) and the Judge immediately shut Heath down :lol:
The Judge did later apologize to Heath for being rude.
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AZLaw blog has been updated, but there is still some data not posted up.

https://arizonaslaw.blogspot.com/?m=1
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Lindell rushed out a grifting email...

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Lindell Legal Offense Fund

Hello from Mike Lindell,

WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME!

The war is waging to expose the fake signatures and the interference of machines that stole Kari Lake’s election!

Our LLOF Attorney, Kurt Olson, is bravely representing Kari Lake- He says the court ADMITTED that 260 of 446 tabulators FAILED testing before the Election. That’s 58% of the tabulators. On Election Day, 59% experienced severe malfunctions. Maricopa submitted a declaration by Elections Director Jarrett revealing that AFTER the October 11th certification for logic & accuracy, they realized that they didn’t configure the vote center tabulators to not accept provisional or early ballots. So, they went in rewrote the memory cards, installed what they said was previously approved election definition software. This totally reconfigured these machines. AND IT IS ILLEGAL!
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One good piece of news for FOGGY, though -- remember those SLIPPERS that were going to be SOLD TOTALLY OUT 6-7 weeks ago? Mike said to RUSH. Well, they still have more SLIPPERS! Not sold out. Must have been a low level inventory clerk's error, Mike would never lie about his inventory.


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