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Cross posting from Post and Email

https://www.thepostemail.com/2020/03/10 ... /#comments

Laity gets a FOAD letter. You learned about it first in the Post and Fail.

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When is the lawsuit happening? Has Dr. Laity exhausted his administrative remedies? When is Sharon Rondeau putting up the GoFundMe to raise money for Orly Taitz to litigate this and bring the Office of Disciplinary Counsel to its knees? Or will she do it pro bono because she is such a generous, caring decedent attorney? This is a HUGE development, Sharon needs to write many more lengthy stories about this. Who controls the Office of Disciplinary Counsel? Can they be impeached? Or maybe Dr. Laity should make some more citizens arrests! They need a Birther Summit right away, all the Birthers should gather in close proximity to brainstorm and make detailed plans of how to right this wrong.
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Orlylicious wrote:
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When is the lawsuit happening? Has Dr. Laity exhausted his administrative remedies? When is Sharon Rondeau putting up the GoFundMe to raise money for Orly Taitz to litigate this and bring the Office of Disciplinary Counsel to its knees? Or will she do it pro bono because she is such a generous, caring decedent attorney? This is a HUGE development, Sharon needs to write many more lengthy stories about this. Who controls the Office of Disciplinary Counsel? Can they be impeached? Or maybe Dr. Laity should make some more citizens arrests! They need a Birther Summit right away, all the Birthers should gather in close proximity to brainstorm and make detailed plans of how to right this wrong.
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Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:59 pm
Laity gets a FOAD letter. You learned about it first in the Post and Fail.
The details are funny (I mean, if you still find birther fails to be funny).

To recap: Laity filed an ineffectual complaint with the D.C. Bar. It FOAD'ed him. Laity wrote back:
Rondeau [in Feburary] wrote:
Laity wrote:While I agree that ‘Many members of the D.C. Bar are involved in electoral politics and Governmental affairs’ I would proffer that a very miniscule number of them are involved in or have publicly advocated that a ‘Coup’ against a sitting President ‘has started’ and is in progress. You inferred in your letter that my complaint may be one ‘motivated by political opposition to the policies that such figures advocate.’ It goes without saying that any reasonable person who claims to be ethical would be opposed to such activity by a member of the Bar. Indeed, advocating a ‘Coup’ against the Government is Sedition and advocating the overthrow of the lawful government.
The D.C. Bar, used to detailing with cranks and getting sued for just doing its job (*cough* *cough* Larry Klayman), generously interpreted Laity's spiteful response as a request for reconsideration (or a second request). Because why would else would some jackhole write back? Just to be a jackhole? :think: So it construed Laity's gratuitous hate as an additional request, and dennied again.

But Laity must have the last word!:
Rondeau wrote:In an email to this writer on Tuesday morning, Laity clarified that despite the wording of Neal’s letter, “The request was not for a second investigation but a response to their letter to me.”
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While Rharon's gaggle of goofs are all generally suffering from a heavy neuron deficiency, Laity goes the extra mile. OPOVV just whines in ugly language from the can. I do understand some of his pent up hostility. I've heard his wife sing.

Laity gets told, no, no, and "hey dumbass, no, you're wrong, wrong, wrong," or he gets a standard FOAD letter. Instead of whining on the Pest and eFail (one of my favorite PatGund phrases), he goes back for FOAD seconds.
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Nobody EVER said Laity was smart EVAH!!!!! And he keeps on proving it.
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Northland10 wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:38 pm
OPOVV just whines in ugly language from the can. I do understand some of his pent up hostility. I've heard his wife sing.
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P&E comment:
Laity wrote:I am not one to give up easily. I am an ex-Navy man. One of my favorite quotes is “Tell the men to fire faster and not to give up the ship. Fight her till she sinks. Don’t give up the Ship”- James Lawrence, Captain (USN) of the U.S.S. Chesapeake, War of 1812, Battle of Lake Erie.

I live within miles of several Historical spots where British Raids in the U.S. occurred. Canada is just 3 miles away from my home. We have a statue of Commodore Perry in Front Park in Buffalo, N.Y.

I was once told that I had great tenacity. If I say so myself, I agree. I have the tenacity of a pit bull. They will loosen up their jaws a bit to get a better bite.

As a non-attorney Statutory Appeals specialist, I once fought a case that took (16) years to get justice. The legal team that I was part of, won that case against the Department of Veteran’s Affairs.

The Office of Disciplinary Counsel has apparently made it clear that they CONDONE seditious and fallacious public comments made by members of the DC Bar., turning their eyes away from the rule of law and ethical conduct.
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Is Dr. Laity filing the lawsuit or is he going to storm the place and take the law into his own hands? Don't be a wuss Dr. Laity, talk is cheap -- do something!
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Orlylicious wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:05 pm
Is Dr. Laity filing the lawsuit or is he going to storm the place and take the law into his own hands? Don't be a wuss Dr. Laity, talk is cheap -- do something!
He is going to write letters during the day and post comments at an obscure Birther blog in the middle of the night.
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Reality Check wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:32 pm
Orlylicious wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:05 pm
Is Dr. Laity filing the lawsuit or is he going to storm the place and take the law into his own hands? Don't be a wuss Dr. Laity, talk is cheap -- do something!
He is going to write letters during the day and post comments at an obscure Birther blog in the middle of the night.
This is the reality I want: that "tenacious" Laity's ineffectual motions produce no action (other than hi-larious free entertainment).

The reality I fear is him pulling a Fitzpatrick. (As Laity likes to boast: his online rantings once earned him a visit from the U.S. Secret Service.)
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Sooooo... Dr. Laity posted on Facebook 22 hours ago that it's all a HOAX -- this moron author is using old information and saying it can't be spread person to person. We can only hope Dr. Laity follows that advice.



Coronavirus Exposed As The Hoax It Is! Can’t Be Spread Person To Person As The Problem Is The Immune System, Not A Virus
Tim Brown / March 25, 2020

As with anything, you live and you learn. It’s called educating yourself. When we first heard of the coronavirus, some of us, including myself were somewhat skeptical, but not having vast amounts of medical knowledge and such, we posted articles written by others regarding numbers and reports. However, over the past few weeks, I have learned quite a bit from doctors and a few nurses. One of the main things is that we have viruses both in us and on us and around us all the time. Yet, many never get sick. So why is that?

Well, this is what I want to present to you for your consideration.

And as I present it, know this, there will not be any more coronavirus articles on here that indicate that it can be spread from person to person because quite simply, I didn’t know that was the case because I was taught those things from an early age. Now, I do, and the results will be to not only expose the lie that the Trump administration, Republicans, Democrats, health “experts” and the media have put to us and call on the people to deal with these people who should know better, and probably do, but they lie to us anyway.

With that said, here’s a video that I watched on the subject. [NOTE: Reported the video]





Tell me if you don’t think this makes far more sense than what we are being told.
https://thewashingtonstandard.com/coron ... t-a-virus/

This "Washington Standard" is a garbage site so of course Dr. Laity and the idiots take it seriously.
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And Laity manages to extend his breadth of stupid..... My head hurts.

Germs DON'T cause disease!!!!!!! So Pasteur was wrong!!!!!!!! We are now back in the mid 1800's for medicine coupled with quackery/

Who is this idiot. Dr Mike, the hell!!!!!!!! Doesn't believe in Germ Theory. Doesn't know what "theory" means in scientific terms. Dr Andrew Kaufman, Royal Rife clear off in to fantasy fiction and total quack medicine. My head hurts. This flat out makes me nauseous.
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P&E comment:
Laity [at 12:48 AM] wrote:The Coronavirus, “The invisible enemy” as President Trump calls it, is being used as a tool by the Deep State to utilize the current crisis to their sinister ends. “Never let a crisis go to waste”-Rahm Emmanuel, an Alinsky follower. Alinsky rule # 9 is “The THREAT [emphasis added] is usually more terrifying than the thing itself”.

Conversely, President Trump recently said that he did not want the cure to be worse than the disease. The Democrats are of the Alinsky cabal. Alinsky dedicated his book “Rules for Radicals” to Satan.

It’s true, as Bob Russell says, the Bible does tell us that we are in battle with the evil spiritual realm. Indeed, it wasn’t too long ago that the Democrat Party acted to remove God from their platform.

It is my opinion that the voice vote was to all who heard it an obvious 50/50 vote by the Democrat National Conventioneers. People “For” yelled just as loud as the people “against”.

If the deciding official had ruled that the “ayes have it”, all mention of God would have been removed from the Democrat Party platform. The decider, thank God, said that in his opinion the Nays had it and God was not removed from the DNC platform.

Democrats are Godless people. Of this I am convinced. Churches will never be closed by force. Never. “And I say onto thee,that thou art Peter and upon this rock I shall build my church;and the gates of Hell will NOT prevail against it”- Matthew 16:18.

“Though they plot evil against you and devise wicked schemes, they cannot succeed”-Psalm 21:11, The Bible, New International version.

Jesus was Jewish and his followers are called “Christians”. The late great St. Pope John-Paul, II said that The Jews are the elder brothers and sisters of we Christians. Contrary to popular belief, Islam has NO place in that Judeo-Christian ancestry. NONE!! Islam is NOT an Abrahamic Religion. Islam is NOT a religion at all. See: “What Islam is not”.

Islam did not come into existence until a full six hundred years after Jesus died. It is a Satanic conglomeration of cherry picked precepts taken from other religious texts and was invented by a degenerate perverted pedophile named Muhammad.

Facebook has banned me several times for speaking of this. But I will not cease to do so. Islam is evil, on it’s face., a work of evil origins.
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Laity wrote:I am again serving a (30) day term in the “FB Gestapo” cooler for criticizing Islam. SCOTUS recently ruled that it was ok to “Force” a student to pray Islamic prayers in public schools. I can assure you, THAT is NOT Constitutional. SCOTUS has acted in derogation of that students Freedom of Religion and against the Establishment clause.
I hazard that Laity is referring to the October cert. denial of a 4th Cir. case that had ruled a high school teaching about Islam in a world history class did not violate the First Amendment.
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When has Laity ever let little things like facts and/or reality interrupt a good rant.
The fact that you sincerely and wholeheartedly believe that the “Law of Gravity” is unconstitutional and a violation of your sovereign rights, does not absolve you of adherence to it.

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Noticed his absence since 3/28 but didn't want to alarm everybody :lol: , idk the COVID counts in his part of NY State but his last post included this comment... and he's proven stupid enough to go along with idiocy.

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That P&E thread is really a lovely little catalog of #FAIL for Laity, he's made it his home for posting his suspensions and bans.

15 Responses to "The Facebook Gestapo"

Robert Laity Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 3:21 AM
I am again serving a (30) day term in the “FB Gestapo” cooler for criticizing Islam. SCOTUS recently ruled that it was ok to “Force” a student to pray Islamic prayers in public schools. I can assure you, THAT is NOT Constitutional. SCOTUS has acted in derogation of that students Freedom of Religion and against the Establishment clause. ***

Robert Laity Monday, September 23, 2019 at 6:41 AM
“Thirty days in the cooler”- Colonel Wilhelm Klink, Luftwaffe, Hogan’s Heroes, played by Werner Klemperer. Thirty days in the Facebook “Cooler” is what I just got for criticizing Muslims again. Islam/Sharia is encroaching upon our freedoms. My comments involved warnings that Americans received about the dangers of Islamic conquest from John Quincy Adams and Thomas Jefferson. Don’t let this dangerous situation continue. Contact your representative and apprise him or her that this is NOT “a Muslim nation” as Barack Obama claimed. I will not remain silent about Islamic Sharia crimes against humanity. Facebook and Google are stifling free speech at the bequest of our enemies.

Robert Laity Monday, September 9, 2019 at 4:18 AM
Twitter AND Facebook have my accounts suspended. Facebook is censoring ANY criticism of Islam as being “Against community standards”. There are countless anti-Semitic rants and hate filled diatribes against Jews as well as many leftist critics of Conservatives being given free reign of the site. Facebook and Twitter are facilitating Islamic conquest and dhimmitude. What is Dhimmitude? First Islam conquers a nation by infiltrating it, attacking it from within and any other means to that end. It then undertakes to control every aspect of one’s life under sharia law. Being censored to the point of being unable to fight this onslaught by commenting about it is tantamount to facilitating it and being complicit with the Islamic prime directive of conquest of the entire Earth for allah. Whether you care to believe it or not. Eight years of the Muslim Obama, in our WH, has led to Islam and Muslims being given great deference over every one else.

Robert Laity Saturday, July 27, 2019 at 3:54 AM
I am back in Facebook Jail for criticizing Islam, even though there have been Muslims all around the world, including in our own congress, who have been chanting “Death to America” and/or other similar rants for many years now.

Robert Laity Friday, July 5, 2019 at 4:55 AM
Things are worsening. My Quora account was suspended because ONE person said that a comment I made regarding Obama was “racist and untrue spam”. ONE person resulted in a suspension. I deleted that account. Who needs it.

Robert Laity Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 1:44 AM
Thanks Glenn and Sharon. We are all working as a team. There is NO “I” in the word TEAM.
We MUST do everything that can be done to preserve our founding father’s dream of “Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness” for ourselves and our posterity. We must not let America be subsumed by socialists,communists or shariaists.

Robert Laity Monday, April 15, 2019 at 2:33 AM
I have been permanently banned on Twitter after amassing over two thousand followers (a modest amount, I admit) and having written 50,000 tweets. They just do NOT want to hear from Republicans or Conservatives. They never even showed me the alleged offending tweet. Just that it “violated twitter rules”. PFUI on Twitter.
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All that stands between Laity having no platform at all and illuminating the world is Mrs. Rondeau and the Mighty Pest and eFail. Rharon should be crushing his nuts, she's got him where she wants him. A $1000 "Diamond Membership" sounds like something Laity would buy. 8-)
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That Fred Muggs feller is pretty wise. ;)
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The five most recent comments left at the P&E were all dead-of-night (NADT) Laity musings.

Without Rondeau's literal validation, Laity would be talking to the couch.
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bob wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:54 pm
The five most recent comments left at the P&E were all dead-of-night (NADT) Laity musings.

Without Rondeau's literal validation, Laity would be talking to the couch.
The other day I glanced at Rondeau's front page. There must have been 20 or 30 articles without a single comment. There was one older post way down at the bottom that had 3 comments. I would bet her readership consists of no more than 20-30 regulars and equally as many Fogowers who follow links in a couple of threads over to her blog. Rondeau practically has an orgasm every time someone with a .gov IP address follows a link in a Google search and lands on an ancient piece of Birther drivel her blog.
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I think Rharon's slue of despond has become pretty much solely an echo chamber for the voices in her and Laity's heads. At this point she has gone well past her relevance date and she is apparently the only one giving Laity any validation or attention. Even the FOAD's are mostly coming to occupant these days.
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Laity wrote:A “Natural Born [U.S.] Citizen” is one born IN the United States to parents who are both U.S. citizens themselves. -Minor v Happersett.

If President Trump does know that Obama usurped the Presidency, he is duty bound to act on it.

Further delay in acting on such information would make President Trump guilty of misprision of felony and treason. The case against Obama is extremely damning on it’s face.
So the impeached president's delay thus so far isn't misprision-y? :think:
I can only wonder why President Trump’s Justice Department has not taken Obama before the Federal Grand Jury.
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I can only wonder why President Trump’s Justice Department has not taken Obama before the Federal Grand Jury.
Three possibilities.

1. Massive coverup involving all levels of government, media, legal profession.
2. Massive ignorance involving all levels of government, media, legal profession.
3. He’s wrong.

He may never know which one.
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Clearly it’s time for Laity to demand that AG Barr arrest Obama as well as every judge, state and federal, who has ever dared to suggest that Wong Kim Ark defines Natural Born Citizens.

He can post his demands on the pages of the Post and Email, a well known legal resource.

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P&E comments (from an article that had referenced Klayman's "citizens grand jury"):
Lew Harper wrote: Are Citizen Grand Juries legal in Florida?

How can a grand jury try, convict and sentence someone? Aren’t they limited to issuing bills of indictment?

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Laity wrote:[In] 1946 errant rule makers of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure (F.R.C.P) erroneously concluded that Presentment hearings were “obsolete”. That is simply not the case.

Prior to 1946, Presentments were in ubiquitous usage in the U.S. Presentment hearings could be and were used by the citizenry to remove corrupt Judges and public officials from office, upon indictment by a Grand Jury and subsequent conviction by a Court.

A Presentment is a citizen’s empaneled deliberative group of “We the People”. which is without Judicial control of any kind. No Judges are involved. The “Presentment” is constitutionally authorized by the United States Constitution, in the 5th Amendment.

I have been on two of these panels in the past. The Fifth Amendment states that:
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a PRESENTMENT or indictment of a Grand Jury”.
In today’s society, the U.S. Attorney or District Attorney sends a case to the Grand Jury. The Grand Jury is controlled by that Attorney and is under Judicial influence. Because of the unconstitutional forced obsolescence of the “Presentment” the power of the people has been deprived by the Federal Courts for the last (74) years.

The late, great Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, Antonin Scalia recognized the right of the people to hold public officials accountable and confirmed the right of the people to conduct Citizen Grand Juries (Presentment hearings).

It used to be,prior to 1946, that (2) types of these panels existed the totally citizen empaneled “Presentment” Jury and the Judicially empaneled Grand Jury.

Too many Judges and corrupt politicians were being brought to misdeeds.

“Are Citizens Grand Juries legal in Florida”. YES!!! They are constitutionally authorized in ALL U.S. States and territories. As I have stated in the past, they merely need be taken off the shelf, dusted off and used again. The U.S. Supreme Court backs this up.

In Miranda v Arizona, USSCt, the Court said that “NO law, RULE, or regulation can serve to abrogate a right guaranteed by the Constitution”
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“Presentment hearings could be and were used by the citizenry”

This citizen grand jury thing is getting confusing. The Founders understanding of “presentment” would have been based on English law. Blackstone defined them as,

“A presentment, properly speaking, is the notice taken by a grand jury of any offence from their own knowledge or observation, without any bill of indictment laid before them at the suit of the king”

It would appear that a grand jury could report either a presentment or a bill of indictment as indicated in the Fifth Amendment.

But how were these Grand Juries empaneled?

According to the Judicial Act of 1789, “And jurors in all cases to serve in the courts of the United States shall be designated by lot or otherwise in each State respectively according to the mode of forming juries therein now practised, so far as the laws of the same shall render such designation practicable by the courts or marshals of the United States; and the jurors shall have the same qualifications as are requisite for jurors by the laws of the State of which they are citizens, to serve in the highest courts of law of such State”

Are grand juries then selected based on the laws of the state?

Under Florida law grand juries “consists of citizens of a specified number who have been summoned and empaneled by a judge of the circuit court (or by a judge appointed by the Florida Supreme Court, in the case of the statewide grand jury).”

So how were jurors selected in Florida for the citizen grand jury?

What prevents a bunch of Democrats from getting together and convening a citizen grand jury?

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Laity wrote:Here is an article about the Citizens Grand Jury belonging to the People and NOT to the Judiciary, Legislative OR Executive Branch. It also references a Citizens Grand Jury hearing against Obama IN Florida. https://www.newsmax.com/larryklayman/gr ... id/856407/
“Here is an article about the Citizens Grand Jury belonging to the People and NOT to the Judiciary, Legislative OR Executive Branch.”

Klayman cites United States v. Williams, 112 S. Ct. 1735, 504 U.S. 36, 118 L. Ed. 2d 352 (1992) for this but he ignores Justice Scalia’s statement, “It is axiomatic that the grand jury sits not to determine guilt or innocence, but to assess whether there is adequate basis for bringing a criminal charge.”

Then how could the same citizen grand jury convict Obama?

Also as Klayman describes the process there is nothing preventing a group of Californians from a liberal section of the state from forming a citizen grand jury and indicting and convicting Trump.
Laity wrote:As I said previously, prior to 1946 when the F.R.C.P. was written, a properly empanelede Grand Jury could, sua sponte, initiate a hearing to hear allegations of criminal activity against anyone in their jurisdictional venue. That authority was illegally taken away by errant rule makers of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure who said such hearings were “Obsolete”. The process eroded to a point wherein only an officer of the court could initiate a Grand Jury hearing seeking an indictment. That is NOT the way it is supposed to work. I agree that a Grand Jury does not convict. In the case I mentioned in Florida, Obama was convicted by a trial, presided over by a properly seated Judge. The steps included the sua sponte hearing, the true bill and the trial. The Constitution was followed. This is the same process that ensued when I was a Jurist in two previous Citizens Grand Juries. We heard evidence, we voted on the issue of indictment and then we provided our findings to the Court. The Fifth Amendment grants these powers to the Grand Jury. Citizens do NOT have to wait until a Judge or other officer of the court notifies that Grand Jury that they seek an indictment. A Grand Jury has the power to seek an indictment on anyone in it’s jurisdiction. The conjecture that a leftist Grand Jury might indict President Trump is not likely. A Grand Jury is empaneled under the laws of the State or in the case of a Federal Grand Jury, under federal law. Grand Jurists must take oaths, must be chosen at random and must follow strict guidelines in processing cases. My point was that the authority of a Grand Jury to issue an indictment on it’s own authority, not having to wait for a Judge or other officer of a court to do so, was unconstitutionally commandeered by errant rule makers of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure. There has never been any amendment to repeal the 5th amendment. “No law, rule or regulation can serve to abrogate a right guaranteed by the Constitution”- Miranda v Arizona, USSCt.
Laity believes it is "unlikely" that this impeached president will face an "indictment."

Any one able to jump onto a quick video conference? :evil:
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