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Re: New forum: Religion

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Mikedunford wrote:
Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:33 pm
Panch Villlain wrote:
Wed Apr 15, 2020 7:06 am
-the rules here are arbitrary & unevenly enforced
It's been like that from the beginning. There are members and members.
Haven't you only been a member of this forum since like September?
No, I think he's been here a long time under many other usernames.
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Re: New forum: Religion

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I believe in God.
I don't trust anybody who claims to speak for her.

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I think people think that referring to God as "Her" is pretty shocking. In fact Christian mystics say that the perception of God can flip from male to female to male and sometimes both. Its a phenomenon I have and do experience when I focus on the other outside myself. And it causes no anxiety, because whatever way it chooses to manifest itself today, it's still God, not human, but just IS.

Hmm... in 2 minds whether to even post that, but whatever, it is what it is.

I'll toss this quote out as well.
I am a democrat because I believe that no man or group of men is good enough to be trusted with uncontrolled power over others. And the higher the pretensions of such power, the more dangerous I think it both to rulers and to the subjects. Hence Theocracy is the worst of all governments. If we must have a tyrant, a robber baron is far better than an inquisitor. The baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity at some point may be sated; and since he dimly knows he is doing wrong he may possibly repent. But the inquisitor who mistakes his own cruelty and lust of power and fear for the voice of Heaven will torment us infinitely more because he torments us with the approval of his own conscience and his better impulses appear to him as temptations.

And since Theocracy is the worst, the nearer any government approaches to Theocracy the worse it will be.... It forbids them, like the inquisitor, to admit any grain of truth or good in their opponents, it abrogates the ordinary rules of morality, and it gives a seemingly high, super-personal sanction to all the very ordinary human passions by which, like other men, the rulers will frequently be actuated.
C. S. Lewis. "A reply to Proffesor Haldane"

This is the same man who also said
“And out of that hopeless attempt has come nearly all that we call human history—money, poverty, ambition, war, prostitution, classes, empires, slavery—the long terrible story of man trying to find something other than God which will make him happy.”
C.S. Lewis, "Mere Christianity"
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An opinion piece from the Mankato, MN newspaper.

My View: Evangelicals enable Trump and his evil doings
https://www.mankatofreepress.com/opinio ... b4c3e.html
According to a recent Pew survey, white evangelicals by nearly a 2-to-1 margin, are more likely than other Americans to agree that Trump is "morally upstanding" and "honest.” This survey was released almost simultaneously with the latest update from the Washington Post’s fact checking team: Trump has told over 18,000 lies since he took office.

Eighty-one percent of Evangelicals and a majority of white Christians voted for Trump in 2016. Anthea Butler wrote for NBC that what keeps Evangelicals' support for Trump strong is racism. Evangelicals have long participated in and supported racist structures in America, she wrote; they “count on Trump to protect them from socialists, Muslims, independent women, LGBT people and immigration.” And of course, from black and brown-skinned people.
:snippity:
The Southern Poverty Law Center has reported on “racist religious movements within white supremacy” such as the Christian Identity movement, sovereign citizens, militia extremists and violent anti-abortion opponents that use religion and the Bible to justify threats, criminal activity and violence. This includes the KKK and anti-Semitic groups who blame Jews for killing Jesus. Virtually all are supporters of Trump and the Republican Party.
:snippity:
Biblical superstition and self-righteousness can be dangerous. George W. Bush, “a militaristic religious zealot” (biographer Jean Edward Smith), reportedly asked French Prime Minister Chirac to join the U.S. invasion of Iraq because Gog and Magog were “at work” in the Middle East...“The biblical prophecies are being fulfilled …This confrontation is willed by God….”
:snippity:
H.L. Mencken warned us, to no avail: “On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.
I've heard this bull before.

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Re: New forum: Religion

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Patagoniagirl wrote:
Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:20 pm
My views on religion are both narrow and wide. Because I consider spirituality a part of some, and cultism as part of others. I guess. One could say I pick and choose and I fluctuate and mature (hopefully). My "religion" currently comprises not the Bible or any other literature, but I do find wisdom and comfort in some writings; Rumi resonates with me.

Some are members of churches and religions because they were born into it and it is no different than how Sunday dinners go. Some seek out a religion to find belonging, or structure and guidance. Seekers.

I am both a seeker and now a finder. And as I am comfortable with what I have found, I do not find fault with others who have found theirs. Though I do often find fault with the institutions. Not the people.
My sig quote is meant in jest, but I really do love Rumi and understand the symbolism of wine in his work...I think it is valuable and necessary to separate Religion and Spirituality, and would love to discuss more gnostic and inner-directed paths towards The Great Mystery here.
So there is no "Religion" group?? :bag:
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Re: New forum: Religion

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I don't come here to discuss religion. But people who hate Christians sure do. Hey it's the politically correct way to be a bigot in 2020!

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boots wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 1:10 am
I don't come here to discuss religion. But people who hate Christians sure do. Hey it's the politically correct way to be a bigot in 2020!
No. People here do not hate Christians, it’s the hypocrisy and corruption. And most of us believe in the First Amendment for ALL religions.
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Re: New forum: Religion

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HST's Ghost wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 9:23 pm
So there is no "Religion" group?? :bag:
No need for one. In this software, there are two types of usergroup:

One is used to restrict or allow access to various areas of the forum. Like only Sports Fans can see the sports threads, after complaints during football season that there were too many of them.

The other is just for fun (and maybe to give your username a different color), like The Resistance or the Grumpy People. They don't restrict or allow anything different, and I ran out of different colors that you can detect. Go to User Control Panel - - > Usergroups to check them out.
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Re: New forum: Religion

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TexasFilly wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 2:34 am
boots wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 1:10 am
I don't come here to discuss religion. But people who hate Christians sure do. Hey it's the politically correct way to be a bigot in 2020!
No. People here do not hate Christians, it’s the hypocrisy and corruption. And most of us believe in the First Amendment for ALL religions.
A couple of the posters here do and they make it very clear that they do.

Hey, it's cool. I stereotype people based on whether they have wackjobs and dumbasses in their family. Which takes out the main offender.

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Re: New forum: Religion

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I know NO ONE here who hates Christians. Not a damned single person who is an active member of this forum hates Christians. And no one here is a bigot.

There are people here, like me, who find the false and misplaced victimhood of bigoted evangelicals and fringes of other religions offensive and disgusting.

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