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Gregg wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 2:00 pm I'm pretty sure its against the law for Lawyers recruiting for a class action are not allowed to ask for donations or fees up front.
You're probably right.

My point was that any competent lawyer probably knows that this suit will never be certified as a class action. It seems like there is going to be some sort of grift involved.
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I can see, when they are suing a large manufacturer and the users of the defective product can't be readily identified, that it might be necessary to contact the law firm. But, if the class is all registered voters, they are readily identified. It might be time-consuming and tedious to contact all fifty state capitals for a list of voters, but it could be done.

Assuming that this suit is ever really filed, my guess is it will not make it past a MTD for lack of standing. If, somehow, it makes it past the MTD, it will not be certified as a class action.
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somerset wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 4:37 pm
pipistrelle wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:44 am
It looks like we found the same things. He got his PhD circa 1983, and the last published paper on that one list was 1997. If that's so, that's a very short and unimpressive career for a "world renown" physicist. Even if he were, that wouldn't give him election fraud expertise. But I have to remember the point is to impress people who want to be deceived.
Edit: I too would like to know why he left academia to become a school administrator, but wouldn't be surprised if he thought it was more "Christian."
Oh, and about that super significant 1990 paper that made the cover of Science, it seems that some of the real "rock stars" of the Auger (pronounced O-Jay) spectroscopy world found it a bit lacking and gave him something of an academic b@#$ch-slap. (Sorry I don't have actual pages from the publication. They're behind a paywall in a library we don't subscribe to).

Since this happened near the end of his academic career, I wouldn't be surprised if it played a role in his decision to move on.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/2874861?seq=1
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So Frank and Lindell claim they've traced all the "IP addresses". What IP addresses? Dominion machines? Those don't connect to the internet.
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LM K wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 2:54 pm So Frank and Lindell claim they've traced all the "IP addresses". What IP addresses? Dominion machines? Those don't connect to the internet.
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Rharon transcribed Lindell's latest cartoon. She talks about Gregg's dear friend Doug Frank. And Rharon is still loaded for bear over Mary Fanning, it seems to have even soured her on Lindell. :( Bonus: Commentary from Mike Zullo! Heartwarming to see "The Rondeau Pivot" back in the saddle! :thumbsup:
Election “Fraud” Accounted for Differently in Lindell’s “Scientific Proof”
PHYSICIST IDENTIFIES "ALGORITHM" AS INFLATING NUMBERS OF VOTERS
10 hours ago by Sharon Rondeau

(Apr. 5, 2021) — On Wednesday, MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell released a new one-hour video titled, “Scientific Proof” featuring an interview with Dr. Douglas G. Frank, a widely-published physicist who reported having analyzed the November 3, 2020 election returns in several states and concluded that the outcome of the presidential election declaring Democrat Joe Biden the winner is fraudulent due to an “algorithm” utilized to skew the results.

Frank claimed that the 2010 census data was used to program voting machines to inflate actual voter turnout to exceed, in many cases, the number of registered voters or even residents in the counties and states he analyzed, which included Pennsylvania, Ohio and Colorado as depicted in the examples he provided.

At Lindell’s urging toward the end of the presentation, Frank pledged to undertake an analysis of Wisconsin, a “swing” state whose highest court ruled, the day the Electoral College cast its votes for president, that election clerks across the state misinterpreted state law when they accepted tens of thousands of unverified absentee ballots on which voters claimed to be “indefinitely confined.”

During the presidential transition period, Lindell claimed to possess information acquired from attorneys Sidney Powell and Lin Wood, both supporters of then-President Donald J. Trump, showing that Trump won the election. Lindell further predicted that Trump would serve another term and that he had conducted his own research to verify his claims.

Just days before Trump left office in January, Lindell was photographed at the White House with documents he reportedly shared with Trump and/or Trump’s inner circle appearing to have originated with articles written by Mary Fanning and Alan Jones of The American Report claiming foreign “cyberwarfare” as having altered the presidential election results from Trump to Biden.

Without explaining his earlier erroneous prognostications, Lindell in early February co-produced, along with Fanning, Jones and Brandon Howse of WVW-TV, a two-hour video titled, “Absolute Proof” claiming to present conclusive evidence as to how the election was “stolen” from Trump. During the video’s last 24 minutes, Fanning relates her narrative of vote-switching allegedly perpetrated by from China, Russia, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq and other nations, to which Lindell gave obvious credence as the overarching explanation of the presidential election results.

As with Howse, Fanning and Jones are profiting monetarily from their association with Lindell when MyPillow customers enter a particular “promo” code while making a purchase.

https://theamericanreport.org/2021/02/0 ... ute-proof/

“Absolute Proof” also featured Michigan constitutional attorney Matt DePerno, who brought a case against Antrim County for alleged election irregularities and faulty recording of votes which remains active. Another guest was Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney (Ret), whose frequent commentary on Howse’s show and other platforms after the election garnered wide reportage and speculation.

Unexplained in “Absolute Proof” or subsequently are Fanning and Jones’s shifting claims as to why Trump lost the election to Biden. As The Post & Email has reported, Fanning and Jones first wrote on October 31, 2020 that a government mega-computer dubbed “The Hammer” and software allegedly invented by former government subcontractor Dennis Montgomery, “Scorecard,” were responsible for vote-switching in six key “swing” states plus Florida and Texas sufficient to “steal” the November 3 election for Biden.

The states of Florida and Texas, however, were placed decisively in Trump’s column on Election night.

On November 23, Fanning, Jones and McInerney appeared on Howse’s show advancing the “Hammer/Scorecard” narrative along with the claim that a CIA facility in Frankfurt, Germany was the subject of a raid tied to the November 3 election.

A partial synopsis of the show reads:

3-Star General Thomas McInerney, National Intelligence authors Mary Fanning and Alan Jones. Topic: General McInerney joins us to explain how the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) aided the Marxist Democrats in stealing the 2020 Presidential election through a CIA cyber facility in Frankfurt, Germany. Topic: General McInerney discusses the CIA cyber facility center from which he says servers were confiscated by U.S. special forces and in possession of the good guys now.

and:

Mary Fanning and Alan Jones join us to respond to and add to the exclusive report by General McInerney on Brannon’s program.

On their website, Fanning and Jones state of the broadcast, “The conversation covers THE HAMMER and SCORECARD cyberwarfare attack on the 2020 U.S. Presidential Election…”

McInerney’s claims about “The Hammer,” “Scorecard,” and the alleged clandestine CIA operation drew the attention of numerous bloggers and secondary news services, with the latter strongly refuted by The Military Times.

Beginning in March 2017, Fanning and Jones claimed that “The Hammer,” according to Montgomery, was used to spy on American citizens, including Donald Trump, as allegedly directed by Obama-era officials John Brennan and James Clapper.

Early in January, Fanning and Jones altered their election narrative to say that foreign “cyberwarfare attacks” were responsible for the outcome, sourced to unnamed “cyber security experts” formerly in the employ of the U.S. government. China, they said, was the main instigator, along with Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Russia, and other countries. Further, Fanning and Jones claimed to have proof showing the origin of the alleged cyber attacks, the IP numbers involved, and the U.S. election systems targeted which Howse displayed in a January 13 broadcast in the form of a spreadsheet with multiple columns of data.

A single “source” Fanning and Jones referenced for the new information was undoubtedly Montgomery.

Some analysts claimed a number of the IP addresses in the spreadsheet misidentified the locations and cautioned that Montgomery’s history contains numerous promises to produce evidence which were never fulfilled.

Fanning and Jones have responded to detractors of their purported election-tampering evidence by claiming those individuals to “have CIA connections.”

A lawsuit filed February 22 by Dominion Voting Systems and affiliated companies against Lindell and MyPillow alleges defamation and loss of income due to Lindell’s accusations that the company’s voting equipment altered ballot tabulations. Quoting extensively from Howse’s interviews of Fanning and Jones, the lawsuit also references articles from The American Report and invokes Montgomery’s history, thereby deeming Lindell’s sources of information on election-tampering to be unreliable.

The lawsuit clearly attempts to discredit Lindell both professionally and personally and points out that neither Fanning nor Jones has a background in “cybersecurity or intelligence” (p. 35).

Fanning and Jones’s last article on the alleged “cyberwarfare attack” on the election is dated February 19, 2021.

During a March 31 interview with Stephen K. Bannon’s “War Room” just prior to the release of “Scientific Proof,” Lindell said he plans to countersue Dominion.

While clearly embracing Frank’s analysis of election anomalies in “Scientific Proof,” Lindell also attempted to connect the narrative of foreign “cyber” interference, claiming he had the evidence to prove it.

On Wednesday evening, Howse interviewed Frank, Lindell and Fanning about Frank’s reported findings. When Howse introduced Fanning after the 6:00 mark, she expressed her support for Frank’s work, stating it demonstrated “that an algorithm was put together that reflected the 2010 census and that that algorithm was used to steal votes.” She did not invoke her earlier claims of “cyberwarfare” or of “The Hammer” and “Scorecard” having altered votes. Rather, Fanning posed a question to Frank related to his conclusions and again lauded him for having “brought forth scientific proof that shows that algorithms were created in order to steal the election.”

“These are neural networks that most people don’t understand,” Fanning said. “Dr. Frank not only understands it but can explain this to the American people, and if we let this election remain stolen, we will never have another fair election; we will lose freedom in the United States of America.”

Links to the broadcast were “blocked” by Facebook, Howse said at the 8:15 mark.

Frank told Howse that a plan existed before the election to ensure the “right number of paper ballots” would match any audits or recounts that might take place afterward. The scheme required the “inflation” of registered voters, he said, and utilized the 2010 census since data because the 2020 census was not yet available.

“There are so many ways to cheat that they’re using them all,” Frank told Howse. “…So by spreading out the cheating, which my algorithm shows how to do that, by spreading it out, you essentially make it — it makes everybody sound like it’s not going to matter if you find the votes anyway…”

Following the pattern of the 2010 census, Frank said he could “simulate the whole election.” He then said he would “teach every citizen how to do this,” meaning identifying election fraud to bring to the attention of the proper authorities.

The “experiment” conducted after discovering the algorithm, Frank said, was that of “knocking on doors” numbering “1,600” to verify voters’ reported residences. In one case, Frank said, there were “eight people registered” to a residence, seven of whom reportedly voted, where two “Europeans” visiting the U.S. on visas answered the door and acknowledged they could not have legally voted in the U.S.

At the 38:30 minute mark, Howse introduced Lindell. Approximately seven minutes into his remarks on Frank’s findings, Lindell again connected the alleged “cyber” interference and “spyware, the IDs of the computers” as “validation” of Frank’s work. At that point speaking for Frank and his reaction to “Absolute Proof,” Lindell said, “It had to be a master computer or a mega-computer that could do something like this. But then when he seen ‘Absolute Proof,’ he’s going, ‘Aha!’ So one complements the other; each one would prove it in an absolute court of law.”

At 54:00, to Howse’s question as to whether or not the preset algorithm required adjustment during vote tabulation based on Trump’s performance, Frank said he does not have “direct evidence” of an algorithm change but that “somebody I know with the initials ‘ML,’ I think, has the evidence that that took place.” :lol:

Howse then asked Lindell if he wished to respond. Lindell characterized Trump’s alleged garnering of an overwhelming number of votes sufficient to defy the algorithm as “the first miracle” stemming from the election. “That actually exposed a lot of things out there that they had to do…it’s still going on today,” Lindell said, referring to an ongoing election investigation in Maricopa County, AZ. “It’s astronomical, the cover-up,” he said. “In fact, we’re going to come out with ‘Absolute Cover-Up’ down the road here just to show you the magnitude of that.”

Just after the 57:00 mark, Howse asked Lindell to elucidate the audience on his apparent recent claim that Donald Trump will return to the White House in August after it allegedly becomes clear that the November 3, 2020 presidential election was fraudulent. “That’s the third miracle,” Lindell responded to Howse. “…it was all an attack on our country by China, mostly China; and then you had –it’s all done through these machines through cyberattack, the biggest cyberattack ever…”

Lindell said he will begin to “dump evidence” daily of election fraud on the new social-media site he is launching, “Frank.” “It’s going to get before the Supreme Court in about six weeks,” Lindell asserted. “When it gets there, it’s going to be nine-nothing; they’re going to pull down this election; now what they do with it, I don’t know…By the time this all plays out, it’ll be August; Donald Trump’ll be back in; that’s my prediction….”

With 2:10 left in the broadcast, Howse asked Fanning for a closing comment, to which she responded, “Yes, it just shows that artificial intelligence [inaudible] the algorithm was defeated by Donald Trump’s landslide.”

In early 2014, Mike Zullo, a former detective and private investigator who spent more than five years investigating the Obama “long-form” birth-certificate image posted by the White House in 2011, was assigned by then-Maricopa County Sheriff Joseph Arpaio to oversee the work of a confidential informant to the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office (MCSO). The informant was Dennis Montgomery, who had come forward to say he possessed evidence of government intrusions into the bank accounts of more than 150,000 county residents. Believing the claim merited an investigation, Arpaio hired Montgomery to produce the evidence he claimed to have but which ultimately never materialized.

Zullo spent more than a year in the supervisory role, arranging for pro bono legal representation for Montgomery as well as for Montgomery testify to a federal judge as to his claims of government spying. Shortly thereafter, suspecting Montgomery would not be providing evidence of his claims, Zullo contacted three former high-ranking NSA officials who agreed to analyze the data Montgomery had placed on 47 hard drives for the MCSO. The results of their analysis, as The Post & Email has reported, relegated Montgomery’s data to no more than an elaborate “con.”

Of Lindell’s latest release, Zullo told The Post & Email, “The video actually poses a problem for the Montgomery narrative. Fanning has claimed that Montgomery developed the Scorecard program. If that were the case there would not be a need for the revelations of this physicist and his description of how the computer algorithms worked and tampered with the election results. Montgomery, being the purported creator of the software program should have easily been able to disclose how the software program worked.”
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LM K wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 2:43 pm
That's a SERIOUS bitch slap. Yikes!

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Business Insider -

MyPillow's products have disappeared from Costco's site — but the company won't say whether it's cut ties with Mike Lindell's brand
If you're looking to buy a MyPillow product from Costco, you might struggle.

The brand's products seem to have disappeared from the retailer's website.

Insider spoke to a customer service worker from Costco via the company's website, who said there seemed to be no MyPillow products in stock at any of its stores near Brooklyn. They confirmed that none were listed for sale for online orders.

Insider asked Costco whether it had cut ties with the brand. The retailer declined to comment.

This is a change from January, when Costco said that it had "contractual commitments to MyPillow that we intend to honor" when asked for comment.
I really like Costco so I was disappointed when they did not dump MyPillow in January like other retailers did. I was glad to see that they don't appear to be carrying the product now.
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Maybe they wanted to move the inventory they already had on hand?
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:lol: Here's Jimmy Kimmel's interview with Mike:






Mike is already previewing his next cartoon:


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Just catching up on the Lindell case and saw that Susman-Godfrey is a player in it. That’s surprising as that firm is pretty hardcore— or was when I was in college. One of my friends in high school (he was two years ahead of me, missed ONE on his SAT, and probably my closest friend as a high school sophomore—and eventually my brother-in-law) was Max Tribble who eventually became a partner in SG. I’ve spent more than a couple of nights at Steve Susman’s home in Houston once Max joined the firm since I catered events at Susman’s home and got to know the bunch as these intimate events were common. They were all sharp and hard working and impressive. That was in the early 90’s and Max has had some large settlements since then ( in the $700 million range).

Susman-Godfrey used to very very hardball.
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Any predictions as to what Lindell's defense will be when this comes to trial?

Right now, of course, he is going all in arguing that he is telling the truth. On the internet and on certain right-wing news outlets, he doesn't have to prove any of that, although he insists he has such proof.

In court, it will be a different matter, entirely. If he claims, in court, that Dominion somehow altered votes that should have gone to Trump, he will be required to prove it. And his bogus statistical analysis won't cut it. That argument seems to be that Trump was leading in the polls in the contested states, so it is not possible that he lost. By that line of thinking, Hillary Clinton should have been elected in 2016. She was ahead in all the polls.

Will he continue to argue in court that his claims are true, or will he do like Rudy did, and back down in court when he faces real consequences for propagating more lies?
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All I know is my fingers are crossed he goes ape-shit in the courtroom when his attorney does whatever it is he's going to do, which we can plausibly guess will not be the bullshit ML is spewing on RW media. My best guess, however, is the defense atty will take a 1st A defense.
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The case against Lindell and My Pillow may be suitable for summary judgment. So Lindell may never get into court except when damages are assessed.
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If Lindell ever gets on the stand, he will go full-blown, damn the torpedoes (insert cliche of your choice), pedal to the metal, crazy in asserting the TRUTH, the TRUTH that we can't handle, blah, blah, blah. They will need a hose and towels to handle all the foam from his mouth. I pray he gets a chance to testify.
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will Al Pacino play him in the movie?
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The summary judgement option would seem to be Lindell’s best course. Although he would probably be restrained from repeating his nonsense, the “corrupt courts / evidence never tested by trial” excuses could be bandied about.
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Uninformed wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:14 pm The summary judgement option would seem to be Lindell’s best course. Although he would probably be restrained from repeating his nonsense, the “corrupt courts / evidence never tested by trial” excuses could be bandied about.
That's true. He and his toadies would spout that line until the day they die.

This, despite the fact that, in order to reach a summary judgement, the judge would have to look at his "evidence" and conclude that there was no question as to whether Lindell made those statements, that they were false and there was therefore no real controversy before the court. IOW, it would not be true that the court never examined there evidence. It would just be that the court (in the person of the judge) examined the evidence and found it lacking as a matter of law.
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So now the frankspeech site has a VIP signup. Used a throwaway number with texting, but after confirming it just shows a screen of how to add the page to a phone's home page. Not too impressed so far.


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All this hype and they don't even have real apps? Just a page to tell mouth-breathers how to make a browser shortcut icon for their home screen.

Yeah, this is going to put Twitter out of business :rotflmao:
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“MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell's social-media site Frank is now set to launch on April 20”:
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somerset wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:18 pm All this hype and they don't even have real apps? Just a page to tell mouth-breathers how to make a browser shortcut icon for their home screen.

Yeah, this is going to put Twitter out of business :rotflmao:
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Maybe show up for trial in a bikini and a clown wig.
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I feel like the actual malice is going to be the sticking point. Dominion would have to prove he wanted to damage Dominion, when his contention is going to be that any damage to Dominion was incidental to what his real goal was: overturning the election and exposing the fraud.
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