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Volkonski wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:26 pm IANAL but seems to me that Giuliani is talking like he was on Fox News rather than in a court of law.
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Volkonski wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:26 pm IANAL but seems to me that Giuliani is talking like he was on Fox News rather than in a court of law.
And Popehat said it was pretty weak even by FOX standards; he's unfocused and low energy, which won't please his patron.


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I'm glad some of you are on the call and others are live tweeting. I just got done with a work phone conferecne, so I'm watching this thread and some twitter threads. Go team! :boxing:


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:yeah:

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Volkonski wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:26 pm IANAL but seems to me that Giuliani is talking like he was on Fox News rather than in a court of law.
That's precisely what I was thinking before the line went dead.


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It seems just as the judge was cranking up for the flogging, the sound cut out for everyone on twitter.

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Most disappointing. :(


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Dang it. I put off cleaning my house rabbit's pen in order to enjoy this.

Now I seem to have no choice but to go clean my house rabbit's pen. :doh:


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Judge has paused the hearing because the phone lines have dropped. He says 8000 people were dialed in. Trying to sort it out. The break came as attorney Dan Donovan was rebutting Giuliani's arguments....


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neonzx wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:04 pm Josh Gerstein
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Judge has paused the hearing because the phone lines have dropped. He says 8000 people were dialed in. Trying to sort it out. The break came as attorney Dan Donovan was rebutting Giuliani's arguments....
I think the judge understands that those 8000 people came to hear him dole out the harshness, and he intends to oblige them.


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https://twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/1 ... 2884715521

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Judge Matthew Brann says the PA Supreme Court just ruled, 5-2, that Philadelphia acted within state law in its handling of election observers....Still taking a break to address tech issues

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GOP voters who were rejected by two lower courts are asking the Michigan Supreme Court to take up their election fraud case, in a last-ditch effort to stop the certification of results in the Detroit area.

https://t.co/JS6Yg9IZ1s?amp=1


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Jenna is the worst of the worst, she's nutz.

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Looks like this is the backup, it's on the court site https://www.pamd.uscourts.gov/


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Donald J. Trump for President, Inc. v. Boockvar, 4:20-CV-02078
***The Court is aware of the telephone problem. AT&T is the custodian of the call, and we are working feverishly to restore access***


ETA 3:36pm The backup seems like it worked! It says in listen mode, don't hear anything but it didn't hang up.

ETA: 3:42pm just heard a voice saying, "There are 480 on the call already". What a screwup!
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ABC News: Infighting and an attempted 'coup': Trump team erupts into chaos as Giuliani takes over legal efforts

Giuliani filed to appear in court on behalf of the campaign Tuesday.


As President Donald Trump’s legal efforts challenging the election results continue to hit dead ends, his campaign and legal teams have descended into chaos behind the scenes as many brace for the end of the post-election fight, multiple sources tell ABC News.

Since launching a long-shot effort to overturn the election results through baseless claims of voter fraud, President Trump has suffered a dizzying barrage of court losses and setbacks around the country, leading him late last week to install Rudy Giuliani, his personal lawyer, to lead the legal efforts going forward.

But Giuliani’s ascent has led to an explosion of infighting and disillusionment among the president’s longstanding legal team and top campaign officials, resulting in dueling factions emerging from inside the president’s dwindling campaign, multiple sources tell ABC News.

Over the weekend, Giuliani and his own team of lawyers, which also includes Trump campaign legal adviser Jenna Ellis, attempted what was described to ABC News as an internal campaign "coup"— an attempt to wrestle power away from the current longstanding Trump campaign leadership by claiming the president had given them full control moving forward, multiple sources said.

Giuliani’s team has taken over office space in the Trump campaign’s Arlington, Virginia, headquarters and Ellis, whom White House aides have previously expressed concern over, began telling Trump campaign staffers they now report to her.


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From the 5-2 opinion from the Pennsylvania Supreme Court:
"Critically, we find the Board’s regulations as applied herein were reasonable in that they allowed candidate representatives to observe the Board conducting its activities as prescribed under the Election Code."


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3:49pm ET: Yup, the backup line is working, a dude just said, "Your conference will begin momentarily". Number posted above in the letter. Good time to get in!


3:53pm ET: Courtroom is back on. Judges asks AT&T rep if they can continue and she said wait a moment. Then a guy said, I got the main line on... #ATTFAIL. As mentioned before... ATT. you had one job.



Do the lawyers keep billing during a delay like this? :lol:



And more on the #FAIL :lol: in PA Supreme Court:






After SIXTEEN hours, here's what the dotard thinks is so important he has to tweet it.

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neonzx wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:11 pm Josh Gerstein@joshgerstein
Judge Matthew Brann says the PA Supreme Court just ruled, 5-2, that Philadelphia acted within state law in its handling of election observers....Still taking a break to address tech issues

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The decision was 5–2 because two justices wouldn't have even decided the case, preferring to rule that it is moot. The principal dissent also explicitly says that throwing out valid ballots would not be an appropriate remedy anyway. This is a total loss for the Trump campaign.


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Good news, the court sorted out the tech problem and posted new call-in information on the website: https://pamd.uscourts.gov I'm now connected and the hearing has just resumed.


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Marc rubs it in :lol:

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🚨BREAKING: Trump and his allies have just lost their 25th court case. This time in the PA Supreme Court.

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