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Perfectly understandable, we'll let you off with a mild beating just this once. :lol:

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https://www.pittsburghmagazine.com/upmc ... E5cnpevI0U
When studying the relative potency and infection rate of COVID-19 among its patients, UMPC reports promising news. The severity and number of infections are on the decline.

“We’ve tested 30,000 and the positivity rate was less than 4%. We tested 8,000 with no symptoms and only 21 came back positive,” Dr. Donald Yealy, chair of the Department of Emergency Medicine at the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine and the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center, told the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review.

Yealy says results from UPMC’s testing is similar to reports from northern Italy, where doctors report less virulent cases among those recently infected. However, that is not the case in other parts of the world, particularly South America, where the virus continues to spread with deadly potency.

Researchers can’t determine the reasons for the decline in our area and say it may be a combination of factors. Yealy told the Trib that said viruses tend to mutate with time, can interact with the weather and may be less infectious when those carrying the virus have a lower viral load.

“And, finally, we are probably making better decisions about who needs what kind of care,” he said.

Yealy says UPMC has treated and discharged 500 COVID-19 patients since the start of the pandemic in March.


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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/corona ... s-for-you/

The virus is mutating as it moves around.
Specifically, a group of international scientists looked at samples from 36 COVID-19 patients in nine California counties and the Grand Princess cruise ship from late January to mid-March. Through a phylogenetic analysis — which is when researchers study the evolutionary relationships of genes — they found at least seven different SARS-CoV-2 lineages, including the WA1 strain which has been associated with Washington state.

This is one of several studies that have taken a look at the genomics of the virus in various regions across the country to better understand its spread.
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“These genomic studies help us understand how the virus got here, where it’s propagated and where it kind of petered out,” Dr. George Rutherford, a professor of epidemiology at the University of California–San Francisco who was not involved in the study, told Salon. “I think that understanding that our cases were probably imported from Washington is helpful . . . we know that there have been some cases that may have been indirectly imported from Asia, but we have a relatively small number of introductions here as opposed to New York, which had probably hundreds of introductions.”
I wonder if this has anything to do with my last post here a few days ago.


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Viruses are always mutating during their distribution. But the mutations are only miniscule and don't make it a new critter altogether. The mutations are a good way to trace the origin. The current kind of mutations will not make any future vaccines become outdated. Not saying that some larger mutations won't happen, like the flu that requires adaption of the vaccines later on when the virus mutates to circumvent its eradication.


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Public health workers fighting COVID-19 are threatened with violence, forced out of jobs
In the battle against COVID-19, public health workers make up an invisible army on the front lines.  But that army is under assault when it’s needed most.


https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-n ... d_nn_tw_ma
Officials who usually work behind the scenes managing tasks like immunizations and water quality inspections have found themselves center stage. Elected officials and members of the public who are frustrated with the lockdowns and safety restrictions have at times turned public health workers into politicized punching bags, battering them with countless angry calls and even physical threats.

On Thursday, Ohio’s state health director, who had armed protesters come to her house, resigned. The health officer for Orange County, California, quit Monday after weeks of criticism and personal threats from residents and other public officials over an order requiring face coverings in public.

As the pressure and scrutiny rise, many more health officials have chosen to leave or have been pushed out of their jobs. A review by Kaiser Health News and The Associated Press finds at least 27 state and local health leaders have resigned, retired or been fired since April across 13 states.

From North Carolina to California, they have left their posts because of a mix of backlash and stressful, nonstop work, all while dealing with chronic staffing and funding shortages.


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WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL ABOUT WEARING FACE COVERINGS!!??

(There should be an order, "No face coverings are to be worn against COVID-19." Ban them and everyone will demand the right to wear them.


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Another way to look at it is that the mask gives you the freedom to go places and do things.


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pipistrelle wrote: Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:48 pm WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL ABOUT WEARING FACE COVERINGS!!??

(There should be an order, "No face coverings are to be worn against COVID-19." Ban them and everyone will demand the right to wear them.
8-)

Wearing a mask is such a minor inconvenience. It shows respect for other people. Up here near the Arctic Circle, we have lots of really old folks (the obits in the local paper today had the first 5 people listed who were all in their 90s). They all wear masks. It pisses me off to see jerks from other areas waltz into the grocery store without one.

My husband was at the Post Office yesterday and there were a number of middle aged men with out of state license plates who came in without masks. He asked every one of them "Where's your mask?" They all ignored him. It's basically a big "Fuck You" to everyone around them. Fortunately, they don't spend much time up here.


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TexasFilly wrote: Fri Jun 12, 2020 2:33 pm Up here near the Arctic Circle
I've always wondered, is that just a turn of phrase, or do you legit live in the frozen northlands?


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The pandemic led many countries to suspend immunization programs. Now, diphtheria is appearing in Pakistan, Bangladesh and Nepal. Cholera is in South Sudan, Cameroon, Mozambique, Yemen and Bangladesh. And measles is flaring around the globe. https://t.co/hdBgkctQxE


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A wave of cases in Beijing causes officials to lock down a section of the city.

A section of Beijing was locked down on Monday as the government rushed to contain a new outbreak of coronavirus infections — an unnerving breach in the capital, which President Xi Jinping of China had said should be a fortress against the pandemic.

City officials said they had tracked down 79 infections in Beijing over the previous four days, including 36 confirmed on Sunday. All appeared ultimately traceable to the vast, bustling Xinfadi food market in the south of Beijing.

Until the infections from the market began to emerge on Thursday, Beijing had gone 56 days without new, locally borne cases. Its main worry appeared to be Chinese people returning from abroad with the virus.

While a few dozen new cases seems slight compared to the hundreds or thousands of infections reported daily by other countries, the new outbreak has jolted China, which had appeared to have largely stifled the virus after it emerged late last year from Wuhan, a city in the country’s center.

“We feel this is dangerous,” Chen Xiaoxi, who owns a shop near the market, said by telephone. He said he was waiting for the results of a test to check if he had the virus. “It is a worry, everyone is worried. This is no ordinary disease. We’re waiting at home and can’t go out.”


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https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53061281
The low-dose steroid treatment dexamethasone is a major breakthrough in the fight against the deadly virus, UK experts say.

The drug is part of the world's biggest trial testing existing treatments to see if they also work for coronavirus.

It cut the risk of death by a third for patients on ventilators. For those on oxygen, it cut deaths by a fifth.

Had the drug had been used to treat patients in the UK from the start of the pandemic, up to 5,000 lives could have been saved, researchers say.


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AndyinPA wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:21 am https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53061281
The low-dose steroid treatment dexamethasone is a major breakthrough in the fight against the deadly virus, UK experts say.

The drug is part of the world's biggest trial testing existing treatments to see if they also work for coronavirus.

It cut the risk of death by a third for patients on ventilators. For those on oxygen, it cut deaths by a fifth.

Had the drug had been used to treat patients in the UK from the start of the pandemic, up to 5,000 lives could have been saved, researchers say.
A little caution re that story -


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This study was only in severely ill #COVID19 patients. There’s no good evidence that steroids would prevent infection. From what we know about the immunosuppressive effects of steroids, quite the opposite is far more likely.

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MN-Skeptic wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:59 pm
AndyinPA wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:21 am https:// www.bbc.com/news/health-53061281
The low-dose steroid treatment dexamethasone is a major breakthrough in the fight against the deadly virus, UK experts say.

The drug is part of the world's biggest trial testing existing treatments to see if they also work for coronavirus.

It cut the risk of death by a third for patients on ventilators. For those on oxygen, it cut deaths by a fifth.

Had the drug had been used to treat patients in the UK from the start of the pandemic, up to 5,000 lives could have been saved, researchers say.
A little caution re that story -

https:// twitter.com/gorskon/status/1272931769231257602
David Gorski, MD, PhD @gorskon

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This study was only in severely ill #COVID19 patients. There’s no good evidence that steroids would prevent infection. From what we know about the immunosuppressive effects of steroids, quite the opposite is far more likely.

11:39 AM · Jun 16, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
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yes, this is again a case where I blame the media, all those reporters and editors that don't read the stuff they are publishing. THis isn't about a preventive medicine, that stuff is still being researched and Dear Stable Genius can not make it happen faster (for him to get reelected). This is about treatment in the hospitals!!!!!


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How long before trump starts pushing steroids?


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Off Topic
As an aside, Dexamethasone (Decadron) (and daughter.tek) saved ms.tek's life.

A fast-growing neck tumor had displaced her windpipe to the point where she could barely breathe. Her onc prescribed Decadron, and within an hour she was breathing normally again.

I was still up in Mass, daughter.tek was in FL and went to the onc appointment with ms.. daughter pointed out that "if you don't do something about her breathing, she'll never get to enjoy this wonderful treatment plan you laid out.. because she'll be dead."


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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:00 pm How long before trump starts pushing steroids?
Have any of his pals had a chance to lay sufficient money in the market to get a bump from his push?


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tek wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:08 am There's no way back
from there to here
Yay! A Steely Dan signature line!

When the great Internet bubble was starting to collapse in 2000-2001, my clients (mutual funds and hedge funds) were struggling to stay invested in the sector even as they knew the market would keep going down. I celebrated the return to normality with the following lines from another song on that album as my e-mail signature:
It started out good
Then it got lots better
Makin' up the rules as we went along
But with a business like this
There's a gnarly downside
I thought that they captured the bubble and the aftermath quite well in just five lines.


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Wow. 236 people infected at one Oregon church that was holding services in defiance of a stay-at-home order.


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The current US Covid19 stats: 2,257,201 total cases, 22,730 new cases, 120,520 total deaths. (Worldometer)
I think we'll have 200,000 deaths before October (the CDC estimate), especially given the emerging hot spots and Trump's super-spreader rallies.


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Three hospitals in Palm Beach County FL are essentially out of ICU beds.


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Trauma Service Area: Q (which includes Harris County and some of the surrounding counties)

2020 Population Estimate - 6,688,587

Total Staffed Hospital Beds - 12,725​​​​​​​

Available Hospital Beds - 1,944​​​​​​​

Available ICU Beds - 179

Available Ventilators - 1,248​​​​​​​

Lab-Confirmed COVID-19 Patients Currently In Hospital - 940​​​​​​​


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Texas Positivity Rate
7.50%


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New research paper about asymptomatic Covid19 people -

They shed the virus longer than people with symptoms. Not known yet if they are infectious through that longer period. Also, 60% of asymptomatic people in the study have radiological evidence of lung damage. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0965-6


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