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The Hill: Support slides for Republican governors' handling of COVID-19, holds steady for Democrats


Support for Republican governors’ handling of the coronavirus pandemic declined throughout June, while support for their Democratic counterparts remained steady, according to a Gallup poll released Tuesday.

Forty-three percent of those surveyed in Republican-led states said their governor communicated a “clear plan of action,” based on the new poll. That is an 11-point drop from the 54 percent of surveyed Americans living in one of 26 states led by a Republican governor who said the same in early June.

Similarly, just 53 percent of surveyed Americans in those states now say their governor cares about the safety and health of the community, marking an 8-point decline from the 61 percent who said the same early last month.

Ratings for Democratic governors' handling the pandemic did not have the same dips from the start of June, according to the poll.

Sixty-five percent of Americans in one of the 24 states led by a Democratic governor said in the new poll that their governor communicated a clear plan of action, compared to 66 percent at the start of June.

Fifty-eight percent now say their Democratic governor cares about the safety and health of the community, as did 57 percent at the start of June, according to Gallup.

The drop for Republican governors is largely led by decreased support among independents, Gallup noted.


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To be fair, some R governors have done a pretty good job... one of the best being Maryland's Gov. Hogan. We are one of the few States with an actually good record of suppressing Covid.

But... many of them have done a pathetic job, bordering on negligent homicide. Hence the polling.


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RoadScholar wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:26 pm To be fair, some R governors have done a pretty good job... one of the best being Maryland's Gov. Hogan. We are one of the few States with an actually good record of suppressing Covid.

But... many of them have done a pathetic job, bordering on negligent homicide. Hence the polling.
*cough* DeSantis *cough*


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RoadScholar wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:26 pm To be fair, some R governors have done a pretty good job... one of the best being Maryland's Gov. Hogan. We are one of the few States with an actually good record of suppressing Covid.

But... many of them have done a pathetic job, bordering on negligent homicide. Hence the polling.
Imagine what the numbers for republican governors would be without the few like Hogan and DeWine that are actually doing a reasonable job...


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jmj wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:51 pm
RoadScholar wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:26 pm To be fair, some R governors have done a pretty good job... one of the best being Maryland's Gov. Hogan. We are one of the few States with an actually good record of suppressing Covid.

But... many of them have done a pathetic job, bordering on negligent homicide. Hence the polling.
Imagine what the numbers for republican governors would be without the few like Hogan and DeWine that are actually doing a reasonable job...
Can we add Charlie Baker (R) to the list of the good ones? Massachusetts had very high numbers at first because of the outbreak at a conference, but Baker issued appropriate orders and quickly slowed the curve.


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The Hill: Poll: More than 60 percent of voters say they trust Fauci, don't trust Trump on coronavirus


According to a survey from Quinnipiac University Poll released Wednesday, 67 percent of registered voters surveyed do not trust information Trump provides on the coronavirus, while 30 percent do. Meanwhile, 65 percent say they trust Fauci, the nation’s leading infectious disease expert, while 26 percent distrust the information he provides.

The poll comes as some members of the administration distance themselves from Fauci, who has offered a more cautious approach to reopening the country than many in the White House prefer.

"He may be out of the loop and in disfavor with the White House, but it's clear from the numbers, voters would like Dr. Fauci back on call," said Quinnipiac University polling analyst Tim Malloy.

Fauci has increasingly found himself the focus of criticism from the White House, which this weekend sent media outlets a selectively edited list of remarks he made early on in the pandemic that were ultimately proven untrue as more scientific evidence emerged. ...

“I cannot figure out in my wildest dreams why they would want to do that,” Fauci said of the memo that was released over the weekend. “I think they realize now that that was not a prudent thing to do, because it’s only reflecting negatively on them."

“I stand by everything I said," he added. "Contextually, at the time I said it, it was absolutely true.”


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WaPo: Trump faces rising disapproval and widespread distrust on coronavirus, Post-ABC poll finds


Americans’ views of President Trump’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic have deteriorated significantly as cases rise across the country and personal fears of becoming infected persist, a Washington Post-ABC News poll finds.

The Post-ABC poll shows 38 percent of Americans approve of his handling of the outbreak, down from 46 percent in May and 51 percent in March. Sixty percent disapprove, up from 53 percent in May and 45 percent in March.

More than half of the public — 52 percent — now disapproves “strongly” of Trump’s handling of the outbreak, roughly double the percentage who say they strongly approve of his efforts and an increase from 36 percent in strong disapproval since March. ...

Trump has sent mixed messages throughout the pandemic and has often been at odds with scientists and health officials in his administration. He now faces clear credibility problems with the public. More than 6 in 10 say they do not trust what he says about the outbreak, including 2 in 3 political independents and nearly 3 in 10 Republicans.

Trump’s disconnect with the public is clear on questions about reopening the economy and the wearing of masks. While Trump has called on states to lift business restrictions in an effort to boost the economy, Americans say that controlling the spread of the virus is a higher priority.


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FiveThirtyEight: Americans Increasingly Dislike How Republican Governors Are Handling The Coronavirus Outbreak


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Throughout the coronavirus pandemic, governors have generally received better marks for the way they’ve handled the crisis than President Trump has. However, new polling suggests that may be changing, especially for Republican governors in states where the number of coronavirus cases has spiked in recent weeks.

Gallup recently found that Americans in the 26 states governed by Republicans are souring on their leaders’ approach to the public health crisis, while sentiment remains steadily positive among residents of the 24 states governed by Democrats. In fact, over the past month, the share of respondents who agreed that their governor cared about the safety and health of their community fell by 8 points, from 61 percent to 53 percent, in states where a Republican is governor; opinion in Democratic-run states hovered around 65 percent, despite some movement week to week.


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The Guardian: US public increasingly skeptical of Covid-19 death toll, poll finds


Skepticism is growing in the United States about the accuracy of publicly reported numbers for Covid-19 deaths, according to Axios-Ipsos polling published on Tuesday.

Thirty-one percent of respondents in the survey said they believe the number of Americans dying from Covid-19 is in reality smaller than public data portrays. Skepticism was up from 23% in May.

Skepticism about coronavirus statistics was heavily correlated with media consumption habits, the poll found. A 62% majority of Fox News watchers said the statistics are overblown, while 48% who reported no main news source thought so. Only 7% of CNN and MSNBC watchers thought so.

Denialism around the virus is growing at a time when the US faces an unprecedented emergency of exploding case numbers and when the urgency is acute for coordinated action to prevent an uncontrollable outbreak, epidemiologists say.

Covid-19 death statistics are compiled by the federal government and by independent outlets from reports filed by hospitals and medical examiner or coroner’s offices. The official coronavirus death toll is in fact likely to undershoot the actual toll because many serious Covid-19 patients suffer from underlying conditions that might appear as the cause of death on a death certificate, public health experts advise.

The United States has confirmed more than 3.8m coronavirus cases and more than 140,000 deaths from Covid-19. More than 60,000 new cases were recorded on Monday, about four times the figure for all of Europe.


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Reports like this don’t help.
Doubts about accuracy of COVID-19 death numbers continue as man’s death wrongly attributed to virus

(WSVN) - The accuracy of data being reported by the Florida Department of Health continues to be questioned as the number of deaths continues to rise.

In one case, a man’s death was attributed to the virus, when he actually died in a crash.

“The first one didn’t have any. He died in a motorcycle accident,” Orlando health officer Dr. Raul Pino said.

https://wsvn.com/news/local/florida/dou ... -to-virus/


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A few wrong numbers now just as early numbers were reported to other causes before the virus became known among the mdical profession. Of course an accident looks rather like a bad mismatch. Could the coroner have made an autopsy and found that the casuality had also been infected at the time of the accident?


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Wished I had bookmarked a website with pneumonia deaths. It showed the number of deaths by month and state. As covid19 spread to the states, pneumonia deaths climbed considerably. In one state, the rate quadrupled. I think the covid19 death rate is much higher than what is being reported.


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Got a neighbor, once a good friend who is probably lost to me forever, who told hubs that "everyone who dies in Florida gets reported as covid." He just shrugged his shoulders and came home. (He's much nicer than me)

A million years ago I worked in a pathology lab in an urban hospital (someday I'll tell you guys a great story about it) with five pathologists so autopsies were a daily thing. It was my first medical job and I figure the only reason I got it was it was in a bad part of town in KC and nobody else wanted to work there. I literally drove past a drive-by shooting on the way home one evening.

Anyhoo, a death certificate can list more than one cause of death. For example, the guy who died in an MVA MIGHT have a death certificate that says cause of death: Bleed-out from massive trauma secondary to motor vehicle accident, so, in that case, the COVID listing was a complete mistake, probably data entry. He should have been listed under MVA. (had a boss who once said, "I live in fear of clerical error.")

But if you have, say, lung cancer, you probably won't die of "lung cancer." Something opportunistic will kill you first. But any and all of them will be listed as a cause of death in the autopsy report and the death certificate. For example.

Cause of death: Pulmonary embolism secondary to stage IV lung carcinoma. Sometimes, there's as many as three or four causes of death listed.

It is my understanding that, in reporting death statistics, all the causes, secondary or otherwise, get reported per death. That information is needed for research. Also, let me say pneumonia is a catch-all term. Anything in your lungs that shouldn't be in your lungs is a pneumonia. Just like cancer is a catch-all term for any fast-growing tissue inside your body that shouldn't be inside your body. But there are many, many different pneumonias just as there are many different cancers.

So, if Joe Blow has the novelle coronavirus and it leads to COVID which leads to pneumonia which leads to death, the death certificate will list both pneumonia and COVID and will be reported on both lists. So Mr. Blow's death will be reported twice BUT NOT TWICE ON THE COVID LIST.

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The Hill: Sixty-five percent of Texas voters say coronavirus 'out of control': Poll

Nearly two-thirds of Texas voters say that the spread of coronavirus in their state is “out of control,” according to a new Quinnipiac University poll released Wednesday.

Sixty-five percent of respondents said that the virus is running wild in the Lonestar State, which has emerged as a new hotspot in the pandemic in recent weeks. Slightly less than a third, 31 percent, believe the coronavirus is largely under control in their state.

Overall, nearly three-quarters of respondents, 74 percent, say that the spread of the novel coronavirus in Texas is a “serious problem,” according to the Quinnipiac pol.

More than two-thirds of those surveyed, 68 percent, said that local officials should be able to issue stay-at-home orders if they so choose, while only 29 percent said they should not be able to do so.


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Associated Press: AP-NORC poll: Very few Americans back full school reopening


BOSTON (AP) — Virtual instruction. Mandated masks. Physical distancing. The start of school will look very different this year because of the coronavirus — and that’s OK with the vast majority of Americans.

Only about 1 in 10 Americans think daycare centers, preschools or K-12 schools should open this fall without restrictions, according to a new poll from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs. Most think mask requirements and other safety measures are necessary to restart in-person instruction, and roughly 3 in 10 say that teaching kids in classrooms shouldn’t happen at all.

The findings are a sharp contrast to the picture that President Donald Trump paints as he pressures schools to reopen. The Republican president claims to have wide support for a full reopening, arguing that Democrats oppose it for political reasons.

Few schools, however, plan to return to business as usual. Many of the nation’s largest school districts have announced that they’ll be entirely virtual in the fall or use a hybrid model that has children in classrooms only a couple of days a week.

The poll finds only 8% of Americans say K-12 schools should open for normal in-person instruction. Just 14% think they can reopen with minor adjustments, while 46% think major adjustments are needed. Another 31% think instruction should not be in person this fall. It’s little different among the parents of school-age children.


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Associated Press: AP-NORC poll: 3 in 4 Americans back requiring wearing masks


LOS ANGELES (AP) — Three out of four Americans, including a majority of Republicans, favor requiring people to wear face coverings while outside their homes, a new poll finds, reflecting fresh alarm over spiking coronavirus cases and a growing embrace of government advice intended to safeguard public health.

The survey from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research also finds that about two-thirds of Americans disapprove of how President Donald Trump is handling the outbreak, an unwelcome sign for the White House in an election year shaped by the nation’s battle with the pandemic.

More than four months after government stay-at-home orders first swept across the U.S., the poll spotlights an America increasingly on edge about the virus. The federal government’s response is seen as falling short, and most Americans favor continued restrictions to stop the virus from spreading even if they might hamstring the economy.

Support for requiring masks is overwhelming among Democrats, at 89%, but 58% of Republicans are in favor as well. The poll was conducted before Trump, who for months was dismissive of masks, said this week that it’s patriotic to wear one.


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:rotflmao:
Axios: Trump asks why he doesn't have a high coronavirus approval rating like Fauci

President Trump questioned at a briefing on Tuesday why Anthony Fauci has a much higher approval rating than him, despite the fact that Fauci serves on the White House coronavirus task force and has helped shape the administration's policies.

The big picture: 62% of voters in a recent Morning Consult/Politico poll rated Fauci’s handling of the coronavirus "excellent” or "good," compared to 36% who say the same about Trump. ...

What he's saying: "He's got a very good approval rating. I like that, it's good. Because remember, he's working for this administration. He's working with us," Trump told reporters about Fauci.

* "We could have gotten other people. We could have gotten somebody else. It didn't have to be Dr. Fauci. He's working with our administration and for the most part, we've done pretty much what he and Dr. Birx and others, who are terrific, recommended."

* "And he's got this high approval rating. So why don't I have a high approval rating with respect — and the administration, with respect to the virus? We should have a very high — because what we have done in terms of — we're just reading off about the masks and the gowns and the ventilators and numbers that nobody's seen."

* "So it sort of is curious. A man works for us, with us, very closely, Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx, very highly thought of. And yet they're highly thought of, but nobody likes me. It can only be my personality.


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Addie wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:58 pm :rotflmao:
Axios: Trump asks why he doesn't have a high coronavirus approval rating like Fauci

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* "So it sort of is curious. A man works for us, with us, very closely, Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx, very highly thought of. And yet they're highly thought of, but nobody likes me. It can only be my personality.

Ya think? :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :yeah:


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Hang on, I thought he insisted everyone loves him and he has internal polls that were looking great. Now he says no-one likes him????

Its almost like he... lied!


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He's figured out that he's not the most popular president ever? The boy is starting to use his gray matter. Or he's going to use the sympathy ploy.


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I thought of that, too. For a guy who insists his insider polling shows him bigly ahead, he's acknowledging nobody likes him?


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Or "nobody likes me" seems better to him than "I am incompetent and lying and that is why they don't like my coronavirus response". Or maybe that he doesn't actually have a coronavirus response other than denial, obfuscation, and pretend like everything is already better.


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ABC News: Trump in trouble as nearly two-thirds of Americans disapprove of his handling of COVID-19, protests, Russia: POLL

Trump is underwater on his handling of the coronavirus, protests and Russia.


Nearly two-thirds of Americans disapprove of President Donald Trump's handling of three major challenges facing the country -- the coronavirus pandemic, nationwide unrest over racial inequality and relations with Russia -- in a new ABC News/Ipsos poll, a sign of the obstacles that his reelection bid faces just three months before Election Day.

With the White House confronting the most significant reckoning on race since the civil rights movement of the 1960s, the worst public health crisis in a century, and a hostile Russia reminiscent of the Cold War, Americans have little confidence in the job Trump is doing in all three of these major areas.

Trump closes out the month of July the way it began, with his approval on the coronavirus in the low 30s. His approval sits at 34%, right about where it was earlier this month (33%) when it reached a new low since ABC News/Ipsos began surveying on the virus in March.







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HuffPo: Americans Increasingly Believe U.S. Is Handling Coronavirus Worse Than Other Nations

In a new HuffPost/YouGov poll, just 19% say the country is doing better than most.


Americans take an increasingly negative view of how their country’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic compares with the rest of the world, a new HuffPost/YouGov survey finds.

A 46% plurality of the public now says the U.S. is handling the outbreak worse than other countries, with 24% saying it’s handling the outbreak as well as other countries and just 19% saying it’s doing better than most.

The results reflect a continuing decline in confidence over the course of this year. A March poll found that just 28% of Americans thought the U.S. was handling the outbreak worse than other countries, while a May survey put that figure at 36%.

Views of the country’s relative performance are shapely divided along partisan lines, although dissatisfaction has risen on both sides of the aisle. A 71% majority of Democrats say the U.S. is doing especially poorly in its fight against the pandemic, up from 49% who said the same in March. Among Republicans, 19% share that judgment, up from just 2% in March.

Some 38% of Republicans and just 8% of Democrats currently think the U.S. is faring better than most other countries. In March, 12% of Democrats and 62% of Republicans thought the U.S. stood out positively.


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In other news, Americans meet the real world.


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