On a Personal Level--Coronavirus COVID-19 Cancellations, etc.

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Grumpy Old Guy wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 7:08 pm
Recreation Vehicle sales all over North America, and probably everywhere, are going to take a huge hit this year.
On the contrary -

RV sales and rentals take off as families are eager to get outdoors
For families across Wisconsin, summer vacation will look very different this year. More families are ditching air travel and hotel stays and choosing to take the comforts of home on the open road in recreational vehicles.

“I’ve seen increase a lot of new camper buyers, people who haven’t owned campers before or have just tent camped. People are realizing that the products we offer allow people to get out in the woods and still feel the comforts of home while still social distancing,” says Pat Schenck, a marketing specialist at Quietwoods RV in Janesville.

With summer camps and family trips cancelled because of COVID-19, RV dealerships across the state are experiencing a rush of new customers. It is part of a growing national trend; according to the RV Industry Association, RV sales in some areas have jumped 170% over the same time period last year. The RV rental company, RV Share, claims that bookings for this summer are up 650% from a month ago and 93% of people renting RVs say their first priority is avoiding crowds and crowded vacation spots. These aren't all weekend trips, with half the people renting so far planning to be on the road for a week or longer.
That's from a Wisconsin news source, but Google found other similar articles from other states.
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AndyinPA wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 11:16 pm
neonzx wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 10:59 pm
Estiveo wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 10:54 pm
Yeah, I carry my own pen these days.
But do you touch the paper as you sign before you hand it back? Does it go through UV sterilization before the attendant touches it?
Oy!

:confused:
Point is, there is no 100% in this. We can't confine this virus outside a lab environment because the real world isn't. We can just practice the best guidance we get get from experts (no, not politicians nor their bought 'experts', not celebrity TV "Dr.s", nor facebook posts). Try not to be scared or paranoid. This is all about slowing it down, not killing it. Nobody with any real credentials believes this virus is going to magically disappear in the near term. No, there will be no packing football stadiums this fall (except for 'reopeners').

Except DJT, who wished it away. Or crazy-ass TV preachers, who prayed it away.


But, take heart. This isn't forever. ;)

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The Aussie scientists are testing the UK and US vaccines. There are many unknowns. The virus is changing, so the vaccine must use parts of the virus that are not likely to mutate. The vaccine will probably be required every year, like the flu shot. The earliest a vaccine will be available is the first quarter of 2021. It will take a long time to vaccinate the world, and Covid-19 isn't leaving us any time soon.

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neonzx wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 10:54 pm
Sunrise wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 10:26 pm
One other thing I just thought of is that when I went into the salon there was a stack of liability release forms with two cups nearby. One had pens in it and was marked ‘new’. The other one was marked ‘used’ and was empty. When I completed the form I of course put the pen in the ‘used’ cup. By the time I got to my stylist’s chair someone had taken that pen and thrown it into a trash bin. She was wearing gloves as she removed it, which added to my comfort level. I was very impressed with how carefully everything had been planned for.
I'm don't think I'm impressed with that. :? They didn't think of just wiping the "used" pens down with an alcohol wipe?

Did they throw away their salon tools when they finished with your hair before the next client?
All the places around here, including my local coffee shop, have the "clean" and "dirty" cups for pens. They spray them with sanitizer every few customers, let them sit, then wipe them down. But I also started carrying my own pen.
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Sterngard Friegen wrote:
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I would divorce my family, make a complaint against the neighbor and move far away.
I thought you already did that. :confused:
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W2 and I are in the process of updating our wills and POA documents because it’s time. We met with our new attorney 2 years ago when we first moved to Maine, and there didn’t seem to be a reason to as our documents were only 5 years old and not much had really changed. But I now have a new niece (aged 2, my older sister adopted the child of her polyamorous partners), less real estate, and the pandemic means slightly more likely W2 and I would go together, so it was time.

The procedures for signing depend on whether or not we insist on being there in person. Which we don’t. In person, they supply the 2 witnesses. We wait in our car to be called in (if we had one). Everyone is masked and gloved, only W2 and I would ever be in a room together, the others would each be in other rooms or standing in the doorways of those rooms. Our attorney would direct from behind plexi. He’d call up each person to go into the waiting room with their own pen, sign, then retreat to their rooms where they’d remove the gloves, discard, and sanitize hands. 10 minutes tops.

The other option is Zoom. We supply one witness anywhere in the world, They supply one. Hold up ID to the camera, hold up papers, etc. We are going with the Zoom: easier on everyone plus no need to take Ubers both ways.

Maine is up to 79 deaths. My county has more than half the cases and deaths in the state. W2 is happy to wait until a vaccine to go anywhere. I’d be OK going somewhere before then.
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AndyinPA wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 11:16 pm
neonzx wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 10:59 pm
Estiveo wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 10:54 pm
Yeah, I carry my own pen these days.
But do you touch the paper as you sign before you hand it back? Does it go through UV sterilization before the attendant touches it?
Oy!

:confused:
Another reason why I wear gloves.
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I went to Costco today. They still have the limit of three on meat, and lunch meat counts in that. I bought meat just because I want to keep my supplies up. They were pretty well stocked with meat, maybe because they have the limit. I also stopped at the grocery store that allows only two meats. I did need what I bought there in meat. They were also pretty well stocked with meat. I guess that's just going to be the new normal for a while now.

My son is staying with us for a while, so I'm buying more food just because of that, too.

We misbehaved and had the grandchildren over for a night two weeks ago. :lovestruck: We had all been very careful, and they desperately wanted to come. It was heaven! My granddaughter was amazed at the food she could have here. Her dad is going to their co-op, but they won't go to the grocery store. I bought white bread and American cheese slices to send back with her, and she was ecstatic. They can't get it at the co-op.
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Next Friday, we go to GREEN!

We'll even be allowed to go inside a restaurant to eat, although there will be fewer people at distances apart. And I should be able to get my hair cut! :banana:

I'm also going to get the bathroom and laundry redone! I was so looking forward to it, and it got stopped in its tracks.
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AndyinPA wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 6:58 pm
Next Friday, we go to GREEN!

We'll even be allowed to go inside a restaurant to eat, although there will be fewer people at distances apart. And I should be able to get my hair cut! :banana:

I'm also going to get the bathroom and laundry redone! I was so looking forward to it, and it got stopped in its tracks.
Just because we "go to green" doesn't mean it will be safe. It will only mean we can go out.

I'm not. It's not safe.

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Oh, I'm only going out very carefully, mask and sometimes gloves. I don't have a death wish.
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Bars opened Wednesday in most of Florida (so long as they serve food). On my evening walk yesterday, I noticed a bar (a dive bar) open which has no kitchen (they have a food service license, but they only do a small selection of frozen items like pizza and wings using a big toaster oven). They have no outside seating. Nobody makes it a destination for food. The place was busy! Well over the 50% occupancy from my vantage point (the front is all glass) and number of cars parked.

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AndyinPA wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 8:30 pm
Oh, I'm only going out very carefully, mask and sometimes gloves. I don't have a death wish.
You're thoughtful to wear a mask. Will the people you meet be as thoughtful?

From what I've seen, a lot of people are tired of being careful. A lot of others, egged on by Trump and his morally bankrupt followers, don't care or think the virus is a hoax.

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Real dilemma for us here. I’m so mad at racism I could :torches: , but we are quarantining. So no participation in the protests up the street. I was happy to see a good turnout, though.
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Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 10:08 pm
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Oh, I'm only going out very carefully, mask and sometimes gloves. I don't have a death wish.
You're thoughtful to wear a mask. Will the people you meet be as thoughtful?

From what I've seen, a lot of people are tired of being careful. A lot of others, egged on by Trump and his morally bankrupt followers, don't care or think the virus is a hoax.
So far, around here I have seen almost no one without a mask, and they are required. I think they are either still required or strongly suggested after going into green. While PA has had over 70,000 cases and about 5,000 deaths, we never had a surge in this part of the state. I expect my life will be considerably changed for a long time to come. I can get out now to do some things that I couldn't do in the last few months, but I'm keeping that to a minimum. I agree things still aren't safe, and I will be watching carefully to see how things go. We all have to come to terms with the fact that we are going to have to learn with this for some time in the future, and it's a really uncertain future.

Going green doesn't tell me this is over. It's just the opening salvo that's over. :(
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I guess this could go anywhere :confused:

Maybenaut and I went to see our friends and teachers the DonJuans (w/ Tom Paxton!) around the time COVID introduced itself to the world. I think about this song when I read stories about long-married couples and how they are affected.

It’s based on the story of Jon Vezner’s grandparents.

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Mrs. V. was scheduled to play at our North Fork UU Fellowship tomorrow. They have not been having meetings and per a recent email are not going to meet for a while.
Update: Although the state has begun easing restrictions on gatherings, I am against restarting our services so soon. I want us to be able to relax and have a proper, normal experience when that fine day arrives. I do not want to wonder whether a legal 10 or an illegal 11 people will turn up, or to have to wear masks and sit far apart and not have coffee together.
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I got out today and it almost felt like old times again. I've had a running list of things I've needed, but let go, over the last couple months. I took that list and went to the Home Goods store today. Everyone was wearing a mask; there were a limited number of people allowed in one time (no line); the store wasn't really all that busy so that I felt comfortable. And I got almost everything on my list.

Next up, haircut. I'm going to get it cut shorter than usual so that if this flares up again, I won't be so desperately in need of one. I needed a cut when we were shut down at the beginning of March, so I am way past needing one now.

And we're starting on the bath and laundry. The place I want to look at cabinets is only going by appointment, which is fine by me, and we have been ordering as much as possible online. I just can't buy thousands of dollars of cabinets without actually seeing them in some form in person.

I am a happy camper! :-D
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I've been contributing to the Folding@Home project for a couple of months now and passed the 100M point mark this morning. I've had four computers running pretty much 24/7 the entire time and have processed over 2,500 work units. It's an interesting process and I'll probably continue supporting it after the Coronavirus crisis is over. They also do work on cancer and alzheimer's which I have interest in, but I'll probably put my computers on a rotating schedule so they're not running full bore all the time. I think it's a worthwhile cause but not everybody should do it. Let me elaborate:
  • Don't even think about doing this on a laptop.
  • This program will run your computer hard 24/7 forever if you let it. This would contribute to the very early death of a laptop.
  • It really likes high end GPUs. I don't know why exactly, but GPU work units are worth several times the number of points than CPU work units ( the program sends work units optimized for each).
  • I build my own computers and they're designed for long-term reliability but I'm still keeping a pretty close eye on temps. So far it hasn't been a problem, but I shut down CPU processing on an older i5 because the computer is 8 years old and I thought is was too much of a strain. (The GPU in that one is a newer GTX 1660 Super and I'm waiting on a part to rebuild the rest of it right now...it's due.)
Anyway, I think it's a great cause and encourage people to contribute, but keep an eye on temps at least for a while. If you use the stock processor cooler CPU temps might start to run a little hot, but if you have an aftermarket tower cooler keep an eye on VRM temps specifically, And periodically pause folding to let everything cool down and rest for a while.
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Shizzle Popped wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:16 pm
[*]It really likes high end GPUs. I don't know why exactly, but GPU work units are worth several times the number of points than CPU work units ( the program sends work units optimized for each).

[*]I build my own computers and they're designed for long-term reliability but I'm still keeping a pretty close eye on temps. So far it hasn't been a problem, but I shut down CPU processing on an older i5 because the computer is 8 years old and I thought is was too much of a strain. (The GPU in that one is a newer GTX 1660 Super and I'm waiting on a part to rebuild the rest of it right now...it's due.)
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Because the GPU, especially the higher end GPUs, can do the math faster than a CPU. High-end GPUs can have hundreds of micro cores doing simultaneous calculations unlike like the general purpose CPU which may be 2, 4, 8 in typically.

It's why they are expensive compared to the CPU. The performance for gamers is from the graphics card/GPU, not the CPU.

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We were over at my daughter's yesterday for brunch and a nice visit with the grandkids. This is the last week of school for Pittsburgh. The school district recently delivered an Apple tablet to my grandson in kindergarten and a Dell laptop to my granddaughter just finishing fifth grade. That sort of sounds to me as if they expect the next school year to not start out normally in the fall. They put together a yearbook for the kindergarten class, which my grandson enjoyed. My granddaughter is disappointed that she doesn't get to have a "graduation" ceremony from her current school to Obama Academy.

They both start summer camp soon. They have had special meetings with both camps to learn about all the new things in place because of the virus.

And as we drove through town, I was pleased to see that people on the street are mostly still wearing masks, even though they are required in buildings, but only suggested on the streets.
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Hawaii unemployment office director on leave, governor’s office confirms
Murakami was running the department when the coronavirus pandemic led to the shutdown of Hawaii’s tourism economy and more than a quarter of the state’s workforce being unemployed. An antiquated computer system hamstrung the department and forced those seeking unemployment assistance into a frustrating claim-filing process, with many waiting months for financial relief.

Murakami told a state House committee last month that his employees were receiving death threats because of the issues filing claims.

Before the coronavirus, Hawaii had one of the best unemployment rates in the nation, but dropped to third worst among states in April. That month, the office brought in hundreds of state volunteers to help process claims at the Hawai‘i Convention Center and switched to an online portal running 24 hours a day to ease the logjam.
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/06/ ... -confirms/

Moar: https://www.civilbeat.org/2020/06/the-h ... -on-leave/

About 67,000 people still have not received benefits, some going back to March. It takes daily effort, on line and phone, to get anywhere.

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I took a deep breath and went to an outlet mall with my granddaughter on Saturday as she needs summer clothes for camp. It's about 20 miles outside of Pittsburgh in republican territory, so I wasn't sure how it was going to work. Almost all the stores are open. Everyone had sales. The parking lot looked like the day before Christmas. I've never been there when it was so packed. Almost everyone was wearing a mask outside the stores and no one could get inside without a mask. There were lines at many stores and the six-foot distances were marked on the sidewalks. They were letting only so many people in a store at a time. All employees were wearing masks.

All in all, it wasn't a bad experience. It helps that this was never a part of the state that ever turned into a hot spot and the numbers are coming down across the state. I have no idea what the future holds.
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