Coronavirus and the election

Who is most likely to survive a Coronavirus infection?

Biden
41
65%
Sanders
5
8%
Trump
17
27%
 
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All those who had this first test taken will need follow up tests. When taken too early after an infection the tests don't show anything. Takes about five days and longer. Happy testing! Must be fun to get your brains picked :twisted:


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Trump aides reportedly think he'll 'face a harsh judgment from voters' after COVID-19 diagnosis

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Aides to President Trump reportedly believe he'll "face a harsh judgment from voters" after contracting COVID-19.

After Trump announced that he and first lady Melania Trump had both tested positive for COVID-19, The New York Times reported that "strategists in both parties and even senior aides to Mr. Trump said the president would face a harsh judgment from voters for throwing the country into greater uncertainty after one of the most trying years in American history."

The Times goes on to report that advisers to Trump acknowledge that his positive diagnosis will "remind voters of how dismissive" he has been about the coronavirus. "Mr. Trump's recklessness, one adviser admitted, amounted to a political 'disaster,'" the Times writes. Trump has continued to hold large rallies amid the pandemic and rarely worn a mask, and he told journalist Bob Woodward that he wanted to downplay the risks of COVID-19.

Democratic pollster Geoff Garin told the Times that Trump "is now in the position of becoming exhibit No. 1 for the failure of his leadership on coronavirus, and he runs the risk that his supporters will feel misled by his dismissiveness of the virus and the need for precautions," while Republican consultant Rob Stutzman told the Times that "it's hard to imagine this doesn't end his hopes of re-election."

Ultimately, the Times writes that Trump's "personal indifference toward the virus could threaten his own health, the stability of the country and his already dimming hopes for re-election." Brendan Morrow


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Sounds good to me.


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AndyinPA wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 11:44 am Sounds good to me.
At the very least this will push Trump's complete FUBAR of the pandemic to the top of the list of issues. Biden's people will take that.


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We can hope so but........... :?


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Volkonski wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:10 pm We can hope so but........... :?
Yeah, I think NO ONE has any idea what's going to happen now over the next few months. Even before twitler's diagnosis, I was sure we were in for a very bumpy ride. Now, who knows..................?


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No link, but I just heard on the noon news that Biden has tested negative.


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NBC News
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Sen. Harris tested negative for coronavirus Thursday, a Harris aide tells
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That's better than testing positive, but I will still worry until they are testing negative at least a week or so after the potential exposure.


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jmj wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:36 pm That's better than testing positive, but I will still worry until they are testing negative at least a week or so after the potential exposure.
Yes. Or even longer.


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DNC Chair Perez, also too.
AndyinPA wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:30 pm No link, but I just heard on the noon news that Biden has tested negative.


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Minnesota Public Health Department urges anyone who attended events related to Trump's rally in Duluth Wednesday to get tested ASAP. "There is a potential risk that transmission occurred at the Duluth rally and other events associated with President Trump’s visit," it said.


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The Guardian: What happens if Trump is incapacitated and how would it affect the election?

Donald Trump has tested positive for Covid-19 – but what happens if he can’t carry out his presidential duties?


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... what happens if he can’t carry out his presidential duties?
There's new hope for the survival of this great land of ours.


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FiveThirtyEight: 538 - How Will Trump's Positive COVID-19 Test Affect The Election?

perry: I think there could be a bunch of real, important health outcomes from this …

GOP governors and mayors may be a bit more hesitant to lift COVID restrictions;
Democratic mayors and governors may cite Trump’s positive test as part of their messaging on keeping restrictions in place;
Republican voters may become a bit less dismissive of COVID, in part because GOP elites take it more seriously;
Overall, this news could be important and have a positive impact in terms of Americans taking the virus more seriously.
ameliatd: But for regular people, I think a lot of this is about the gut-level fear that this might happen to them. Trump downplaying it, not wearing a mask, and not getting sick almost certainly helped reinforce the feeling among Republicans that it’s not a big deal. So I also think the way this is presented in conservative media, how visible Trump’s illness is — all of that matters for how people respond.

It’s true that the partisan response is pretty baked in at this point. But if Trump gets really sick, I could see that changing. Of course, if Republican governors start being more cautious with restrictions again and more people lose their jobs — that raises questions for whether a new stimulus package might actually get off the ground, too. I remain skeptical that will happen! But maybe there’s more pressure to break the stalemate in Congress?
ameliatd: Trump’s symptoms are obviously a big one. And if they’re serious, there might be calls to take him off the ballot.
natesilver: Let’s also keep in mind that the recovery process isn’t quick for some people. It can take months, or longer — long-term COVID symptoms are scary.


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Two Poll Workers Walk When Co-Worker Declines to Wear Mask

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/two-p ... t_DFWBrand
"He did not wear a mask," Rick Jacobsen said. "When I asked him to, he said he did not have to and would not."

Gov. Greg Abbott's (R) order about face masks has exemptions that include voters and people working at the polls, though the order said masks are still encouraged there.

"So there's nothing that Denton County, or any other county in Texas, can do to require the wearing of a mask, of the poll workers or voters," Denton County Judge Andy Eads said.

"I thought it was important to have people there so everybody can vote," Jacobsen said, explaining why he signed up to work at the polls. "But I wasn't willing to risk our health when someone doesn't want to wear a mask and expose us."


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Talking Points Memo: Trump Wants COVID-19 Media Coverage To Be Illegal: ‘Should Be An Election Law Violation’

President Donald Trump argued on Monday morning that it ought to be against the law for the news media to cover the pandemic ahead of the elections as the COVID-19 death toll in the U.S. surpasses 225,000.

“We have made tremendous progress with the China Virus, but the Fake News refuses to talk about it this close to the Election,” he tweeted. “COVID, COVID, COVID is being used by them, in total coordination, in order to change our great early election numbers. Should be an election law violation!”

Amid his failure to address the pandemic, Trump has publicly griped several times about the media reporting on COVID-19, even going as far as calling CNN “dumb bastards” for doing so.

“You turn on CNN, that’s all they cover,” he ranted during a campaign rally in Arizona last week. “COVID, COVID, pandemic, COVID, COVID, COVID. You know why? They’re trying to talk everybody out of voting. People aren’t buying it, CNN, you dumb bastards.”

The President went on a similar tirade at another rally several days later in North Carolina.


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"It is strictly forbidden to mention the nakedness of the King" :violin:


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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/2 ... hhs-432115
At least 27 political appointees have exited the embattled Health and Human Services department since the start of the Covid-19 crisis in February, according to a POLITICO review, and senior leaders are bracing for dozens more officials to depart swiftly if President Donald Trump loses re-election.

Such a wave of departures would leave only a shell staff shepherding the department through a uniquely challenging winter of coronavirus outbreaks and drug and vaccine authorizations until Inauguration Day on Jan. 20, according to interviews with 17 current and former HHS officials, some of whom requested anonymity to discuss the sensitive issue.

"There will be a mass exodus should the election go the other way" against Trump, predicted a senior department official, warning that some of the 100-plus political appointees who remain at the health department are preparing to compete for a dwindling pool of jobs across Washington.


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Reuters: Democratic presidential nominee Biden tested negative for COVID: campaign


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Alex Gibney’s new Covid19 documentary, “Totally Under Control”, is available free until election day.



It is well-paced, infuriating and an utter condemnation of the current administration’s incompetence and ineptitude.
Gibney wants Trump to pay for the at least 150,000 unnecessary deaths.


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Note: filtered to viewers from the US (VPN is your friend)

Alternate link

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Explainer: Red mirage, blue mirage: Beware of early U.S. election wins

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Don’t be fooled, voting experts and academics say. Early vote counts in the most competitive, battleground states can be particularly misleading this election because of the surge in mail-in or absentee ballots, and the different ways that they are processed.

The states that count mail-in votes before Election Day are likely to give Biden an early lead, since opinion polls and early voting data suggest those ballots favor the Democrat. Conversely, the states that do not tally mail-in votes until Nov. 3 will likely swing initially for Trump.

These so-called red or blue mirages will disappear as more ballots are counted, though experts say it may take days or even weeks to process the huge number of mail-in ballots, spurred by voters seeking to avoid crowded polling stations because of the COVID-19 pandemic.

“Be patient,” said Gerry Cohen, a member of the Wake County Board of Elections in North Carolina. “You need to count all of the votes, and that’s going to take some time.”
Blue Mirage-

Florida

North Carolina

Texas

Iowa

Ohio

Red mirage-

Pennsylvania

Michigan

Wisconsin


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But the blue states that count early ballots as the come in will, by late Tuesday or early Wednesday likely be complete enough to call if the margin is more than a point or three.

Say Ohio still has 10 of early ballots sent out still not returned at polls close Tuesday and the state goes +4 or more. There might not be enough possible outstanding to make a difference. Even more so when you consider that outstanding votes (in Ohio I think we count anything received by the 10th if postmarked ahead of the 3rd) will not break very far in variance from what they ones that got in before the 3rd.

In Texas and Pennsylvania, who the hell knows what kind of twisted reasoning that Justice Kegs is gonna come up with for not counting hundreds of thousands of votes, but if Florida, Michigan, Ohio and Wisconsin go blue, Biden probably doesn't need Texas or Pennsylvania.


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