Coronavirus and the election

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Who is most likely to survive a Coronavirus infection?

Biden
32
62%
Sanders
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8%
Trump
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31%
 
Total votes: 52

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The US Postal Service is on track to run out of money by June, and it could be a disaster for states trying to expand voting by mail
https://www.businessinsider.com/postal- ... rus-2020-4
Apr 3, 2020
The ongoing COVID-19 outbreak in the United States has plunged the US Postal Service into dire financial straits, as more Americans than ever rely on post offices to deliver necessary medicine and supplies, especially in underserved rural areas.

And as the coronavirus crisis has pushed over a dozen states to postpone their presidential primaries, move to conduct them entirely by mail, or both, the Postal Service's lack of funding could impact ongoing and upcoming 2020 elections by harming states' efforts to expand absentee voting and vote-by-mail.

House Oversight Committee Chairwoman Carolyn Maloney and Rep. Gerry Conolly, who runs the subcommittee that oversees the Postal Service, sounded the alarm that the agency could run out of funding altogether by June if Congress doesn't act soon.

"Based on a number of briefings and warnings this week about a critical fall-off in mail across the country, it has become clear that the Postal Service will not survive the summer without immediate help from Congress and the White House," the two said in a March 23 joint statement, calling on Congress to appropriate $25 million in emergency funds to the agency.

The significant decline in Americans using the Postal Service, which operates as a semi-independent government agency that doesn't run on taxpayer funding, is only exacerbating its financial woes. It is especially burdened by 2006 legislation that required the agency to pre-fund 75 years' worth of employee pensions in advance. The service saw its annual losses double to $8.8 billion in 2019, and currently has $11 billion in outstanding debt
Pelosi seeks more funding for U.S. Postal Service as Democrats warn of ‘crisis’ for agency
Published: April 1, 2020 at 1:09 p.m. ET | https://www.marketwatch.com/story/pelos ... 2020-03-31
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is seeking more funding for the U.S. Postal Service as lawmakers work on a new round of aid amid the coronavirus pandemic, and Democrats warn the independent agency is in crisis.

The stimulus package signed by President Donald Trump on Friday allows the postal service to borrow up to $10 billion from the U.S. Treasury. On Tuesday, Pelosi, a California Democrat, told MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” she wants more funding so the USPS could put in place a wider-ranging vote-by-mail system and deliver equipment to those fighting the outbreak.

House Oversight Committee Chairwoman Carolyn Maloney and Rep. Gerald Connolly, who heads the panel’s subcommittee that oversees the postal service, on March 24 wrote to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell asking him to support $25 billion in emergency funding for the agency. They said that funding and other measures would “avert an economic collapse” of the agency, but neither the funding nor a debt-forgiveness program was included in the bill Trump signed.

“Our work is not done,” said Virginia Democrat Connolly in a statement on Friday. “The Postal Service, which every American relies on for prescription drugs, care packages, and critical services, is in crisis and must be addressed,” he said.

Pelosi said increased voting by mail would soon be a reality of life amid the coronavirus pandemic. “In terms of the elections, I think that we’ll probably be moving to vote by mail.”

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The Guardian: The US presidential election is frozen in time – can it survive?

As unthinkable events unfold over coronavirus, experts say no one knows if the election will happen as scheduled – and Trump is in a ‘precarious position’
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About time, Joe.
NBC News: Biden calls for Trump to appoint a 'supply commander' to coordinate critical material distribution

Biden calls for Trump to appoint a 'supply commander' to coordinate critical material distribution


Former Vice President Joe Biden, the likely Democratic nominee, is calling for President Donald Trump to appoint a "supply commander" to "coordinate critical materials for all 50 states and U.S. territories" in need as they contend with the coronavirus.

“This public health crisis is foremost a human crisis, but it is also a crisis of supply, logistics and distribution. States, hospitals, and health care providers should not have to bid against one another, or against the federal government to get the supplies that they desperately need," Biden said in a statement on Saturday.

“It is clear that the current structure President Trump has put in place is not working — either because he hasn't fully empowered those in charge or because he hasn't made it clear that the mandate must be to take over the entire supply chain and determine the demand across all of our states, tribes and territories for these critical materials," he continued.

Biden also released his own plan about coordinating and distributing personal protective equipment to all 50 states and territories. He has often publicly called for Trump and his administration to adopt his policy plans.
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Bloomberg: Biden Convenes Shadow War Room to Devise Anti-Virus Policy
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The Hill: States turn to election security funds to pay off coronavirus costs

Some cash-strapped states have dipped into their election security funds provided to them by the $2.2 trillion stimulus package to help pay for their responses to the coronavirus outbreak.

The money from the from the mammoth bill was included to help states protect the 2020 elections from malicious cyber activity.

Pennsylvania, Ohio, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Tennessee, and Alabama have either used or intend to these funds, as the pandemic continues to plague the country, ABC News reports. ...

About $400 million was set aside to help states bulk up their security efforts in the coming elections. However, several states have said that they now have to choose between ensuring a safe election and purchasing medical supplies like personal protective equipment and breathing apparatuses to spend their money.

The National Association of Secretaries of State gave every state guidelines on how to properly secure their elections, but has noted that how each state spends its money during an emergency is up to them.
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Reuters: Wisconsin set to hold in-person voting in presidential primary

MILWAUKEE (Reuters) - Wisconsin is set to hold in-person voting next week after the state’s legislature on Saturday declined to take up an effort delaying the presidential primary due to the coronavirus pandemic.
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WaPo: Wisconsin legislature comes under fire for ‘unconscionable’ decision to hold primary amid coronavirus pandemic

Two members of the Wisconsin Elections Commission on Sunday denounced the Republican-led legislature for moving forward with the state’s primary this Tuesday, warning that the move will put the lives of Wisconsin residents at risk amid the spiraling coronavirus pandemic.

The two commissioners — Ann S. Jacobs and Mark L. Thomsen, both Democratic appointees — voiced their concerns in a letter to state House Speaker Robin Vos (R) and state Senate Republican leader Scott L. Fitzgerald (R).

“Your failure to address these profound issues and the safety of all of Wisconsin’s residents during yesterday’s special session is unconscionable and is an abdication of your constitutional responsibilities as our leaders,” Jacobs and Thomsen wrote, according to a copy of the letter obtained by The Washington Post. News of the letter was first reported by Milwaukee-based TV station CBS 58.

“In the face of a deepening and escalating COVID-19 crisis, forcing an in-person election on Tuesday not only threatens the voters, the clerks, and election staff, it threatens everyone those people subsequently come into contact with at home and elsewhere,” they added.

The letter was sent by Jacobs and Thomsen individually rather than by the entire six-member elections commission, which includes three Democratic and three Republican appointees.
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ABC News: Wisconsin mayors seek to scrap in-person voting in last-ditch effort

Ten mayors are urging Wisconsin Department of Health to stop in-person voting.
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NPR: Biden: The Democratic Convention May Need To Be A Virtual Event This Year

Former Vice President Joe Biden says the Democratic National Convention may need take place virtually as a result of the deepening coronavirus outbreak.

On Thursday the party delayed the presidential nominating convention from mid-July to mid-August over pandemic fears, but Biden on Sunday raised the specter of Democrats choosing their White House nominee online for the first time.

"We may have to do a virtual convention," Biden said on ABC's This Week. "I think we should be thinking about that right now. We may not be able to put 10, 20, 30,000 people in one place."

In delaying the convention, its organizers said they would explore further options to maintain public health, including adjusting the convention's format, crowd size and schedule.
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Evers issues order delaying Tuesday's primary election until June
BREAKING UPDATE: Gov. Tony Evers issues order delaying Tuesday's presidential primary election until June. A court challenge is expected. This story will be updated as soon as more information is released.

Gov. Tony Evers has issued an executive order delaying Wisconsin's primary election until June 9.

The order was issued Monday afternoon after the Republican-controlled Legislature ignored Evers' request to extend absentee voting.

The executive order suspends all in-person voting on Tuesday.

Evers also ordered the Legislature to meet in special session Tuesday to consider the new date.

If the lawmakers do not pass legislation to change the date, in-person voting will take place June 9.
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DeWine already set a precedent of ignoring a court order. Evers should do the same if a judge orders it go ahead. Screw the corrupt do-nothing Republican legislature. :fingerwag:
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As expected the assholes (Republicans) will be assholes. The Wisconsin Republican controlled supreme court overturned Gov. Evers order.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/url-wisc ... 59a92dab1d
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#SCOTUS intervenes in Wisconsin primary dispute, blocks order extending deadline to submit absentee ballot "to the extent it requires Wisconsin to count ballots postmarked after" tomorrow. Vote is 5-4; RBG dissents, joined by Breyer, Sotomayor, & Kagan.

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Are they hoping all the democrats die from COVID so trump wins their EC votes?
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Yes.
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Slim Cognito wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:35 pm
Are they hoping all the democrats die from COVID so trump wins their EC votes?
Someone needs to advise them that per capita, COVID-19 is more prevalent in the South.
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SCOTUS' 5-4 order staying the district court's order.
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I don't know what the republicans think is going to happen today, that all the older Biden voters will stay home and young, healthy Bernie supporters will swarm the polls? The polls that probably won't be open because the older poll workers stayed home?
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Slim Cognito wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:17 am
I don't know what the republicans think is going to happen today, :snippity:
It's about a state supreme court seat the Republicans want to steal.
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Reality Check wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:15 am
Slim Cognito wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:17 am
I don't know what the republicans think is going to happen today, :snippity:
It's about a state supreme court seat the Republicans want to steal.
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I now see it's also an open primary. Looking for news on how many polling stations were able to open on time and how many had no workers show up. Found this one and, yep, a lot of workers are staying home.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-e ... s-n1178206
Critics raised the prospect of major Election Day problems, particularly given that thousands of poll workers stepped down. That led the state’s largest city, Milwaukee, to reduce its planned number of polling sites from 180 to just five.
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Reality Check wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:15 am
Slim Cognito wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:17 am
I don't know what the republicans think is going to happen today, :snippity:
It's about a state supreme court seat the Republicans want to steal.
Exactly. I might be the only Democrat in the state who prefers that the election take place today. My reasons are selfish: A friend of mine was appointed to the bench in the fall and is running for a full term today. As it happens, I'm on his campaign committee. We have an opponent who, although he is despised by the entire legal community in the area, is well-connected with the local Republican Party, and thus has made entirely too close a race of it to all appearances. The incumbent judge had a head-start in terms of name-recognition and fundraising, but a delay in the election might have nullified those advantages.

That being said, the Wisconsin legislature, the Wisconsin Supreme Court, and the United States Supreme Court are all, in my opinion, party to countless negligent homicides on account of the people who are going to fucking die as a result of their decisions. Those decisions were motivated entirely by partisan and ideological interests, and the reason no one has heard a coherent argument in their defense is because no such arguments exist. Is it too extreme to call it murder for the sake of holding onto a single seat on the highest court in the State of Wisconsin? Too bad, because that's what it is.
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I'm seeing videos on twitter of long, long, LONG lines of people lining up at the few polling stations that are open. A lot of them are wearing masks, but most aren't, and I'm not seeing six-foot separation.
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Slim Cognito wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:40 am
I'm seeing videos on twitter of long, long, LONG lines of people lining up at the few polling stations that are open. A lot of them are wearing masks, but most aren't, and I'm not seeing six-foot separation.
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Wisconsin-


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Exactly. I might be the only Democrat in the state who prefers that the election take place today. My reasons are selfish: A friend of mine was appointed to the bench in the fall and is running for a full term today. As it happens, I'm on his campaign committee. We have an opponent who, although he is despised by the entire legal community in the area, is well-connected with the local Republican Party, and thus has made entirely too close a race of it to all appearances. The incumbent judge had a head-start in terms of name-recognition and fundraising, but a delay in the election might have nullified those advantages.

That being said, the Wisconsin legislature, the Wisconsin Supreme Court, and the United States Supreme Court are all, in my opinion, party to countless negligent homicides on account of the people who are going to fucking die as a result of their decisions. Those decisions were motivated entirely by partisan and ideological interests, and the reason no one has heard a coherent argument in their defense is because no such arguments exist. Is it too extreme to call it murder for the sake of holding onto a single seat on the highest court in the State of Wisconsin? Too bad, because that's what it is.

It's not too extreme. It's what I would call it, too.
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