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Post by Addie » Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:06 pm

The Hill
Support for Trump impeachment rises 12 points in new poll

A new Hill-HarrisX survey on Friday found support for impeachment proceedings against President Trump has risen 12 points compared to a similar poll conducted three months ago.

The survey was conducted on Sept. 26-27, just days after House Democrats started a formal impeachment inquiry over a whistleblower complaint involving Trump’s communications with Ukraine. ...

Support for impeachment grew among Democratic, Republican and independent voters alike. Democratic support jumped from 59 percent to 78 percent, a 19-point increase. The number of Republicans backing impeachment jumped 5 points to 18 percent.

The number of independents back impeachment doubled to 41 percent.



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Post by Turtle » Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:16 pm

A lot of people tuned out during the Mueller probe and did not pay much attention to the cray cray coming from the Oval Office. I think support for impeachment will increase some more, now that it's big enough to get those people to take a look. It has to be horrifying to some of the folks who aren't used to seeing it every day.



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Post by Addie » Fri Sep 27, 2019 3:08 pm

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Public opinion on Trump impeachment may be shifting as more Ukraine details emerge

The first round of polling data after the start of House Democrats' impeachment inquiry and details emerged of Donald Trump's phone call with Ukraine's president shows Americans are split on impeachment, but opinions may be shifting.

An NPR/PBS/Marist poll this week showed that 49% of respondents approve of the impeachment inquiry, while 46% do not approve.

That survey was conducted on Wednesday, the day the White House released the call summary and the day after the impeachment inquiry was announced, but before the whistleblower complaint was released.

Lee Miringoff, director of the Marist Institute for Public Opinion, noted that the next several days would be crucial as both Democrats and Republicans try to convince the American people of their respective beliefs around impeachment, according to NPR.

A second survey, conducted by Politico in partnership with Morning Consult, was done between Tuesday night and early Thursday — after the impeachment announcement but mostly before the whistleblower complaint was available to the public.

Of its respondents, an equal number (43%) said an impeachment inquiry should be launched as said it shouldn't.
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Vox: Early polls show voter support for impeachment is growing

Following House Democrats’ announcement of a formal impeachment inquiry, there’s been an uptick in voter support.



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Post by p0rtia » Fri Sep 27, 2019 3:13 pm

Turtle wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:16 pm
A lot of people tuned out during the Mueller probe and did not pay much attention to the cray cray coming from the Oval Office. I think support for impeachment will increase some more, now that it's big enough to get those people to take a look. It has to be horrifying to some of the folks who aren't used to seeing it every day.
To me the difference is that someone (Pelosi) is actually leading now; standing up for an action to do something, rather than just talking about how bad 45 is.


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Post by AndyinPA » Fri Sep 27, 2019 3:16 pm

Also, it’s more straightforward. I asked my sister on Tuesday if she understood what the impeachment was about, and she did. She doesn’t follow much national news and her husband watches faux noise.



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Post by Jeffrey » Fri Sep 27, 2019 3:22 pm

So why didn’t she (and others) understand the obstruction of justice thing? Is it simply that it was buried in volume two page 100 of the report?



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Post by Whatever4 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:39 pm

Jeffrey wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 3:22 pm
So why didn’t she (and others) understand the obstruction of justice thing? Is it simply that it was buried in volume two page 100 of the report?
I think the concept of “we can’t indict the president so we aren’t accusing him” is a pretty hard concept to grasp.


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Post by NotaPerson » Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:28 pm

Whatever4 wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:39 pm
Jeffrey wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 3:22 pm
So why didn’t she (and others) understand the obstruction of justice thing? Is it simply that it was buried in volume two page 100 of the report?
I think the concept of “we can’t indict the president so we aren’t accusing him” is a pretty hard concept to grasp.
Indeed. I had a maddening exchange with my nephew over that concept.


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Post by pipistrelle » Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:35 pm

Not up to the moment but interesting. Distribution of Congress people supporting impeachment.

https://www.needtoimpeach.com/congress-map/



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Post by Suranis » Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:45 pm

By contrast the NYT has done one of its famous "Heres the opinion of 8 swing voters who say they voted for Obama but are wearing Confederate Flag underwear, have only been to 23 Trump rallys, and have Robert E Lee love Pillows,therefore todally unbiased" pieces. They conclude that the impeachment thing is totally bogus and no-one in the public is in favour if it.

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Post by pipistrelle » Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:49 pm

Suranis wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:45 pm
By contrast the NYT has done one of its famous "Heres the opinion of 8 swing voters who say they voted for Obama but are wearing Confederate Flag underwear, have only been to 23 Trump rallys, and have Robert E Lee love Pillows,therefore todally unbiased" pieces. They conclude that the impeachment thing is totally bogus and no-one in the public is in favour if it.

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They were called out on Twitter for this, Lee portrait and all.



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Post by Addie » Sat Sep 28, 2019 1:39 am

Roll Call
DCCC polling shows half of voters support impeaching Trump

House Democrats’ campaign arm shared polling as lawmakers returned home for two-week recess


The House Democrats’ campaign arm had a parting message as members headed back home for a two-week recess Friday night: A new poll shows more than half of likely voters support opening an impeachment investigation into President Donald Trump.

The poll, commissioned by the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and obtained by CQ Roll Call, found voters supported an impeachment investigation by a margin of 54 percent to 43 percent.

With the majority of House Democrats coming out this week in support of an impeachment investigation, the DCCC “immediately went into the field to get a snapshot of the current sentiment,” Rep. Cheri Bustos of Illinois, the DCCC chairwoman, wrote in an email to her caucus Friday night. ...

Two polling firms — ALG Research and GBAO Strategies — surveyed 1,013 likely November 2020 voters Sept. 26-27 via an opt-in online panel.



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Post by p0rtia » Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:04 am

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This sums up the modus operandi of the majority of true believers for me. :bighug:

I spent much of yesterday diving into the social media water surrounding my despicable congresswoman. Though most people I encountered were on my side, I ready many posts and responded to a few that purported to be from true believers. They had no facts, bad grammar, and bad keying skills. They live in scoffing generalities about how stupid the lib posters are, how treasonous office-holding dems are, and how villainous the media. Occasional statements of their view of reality, e.g., "read the Constitution; he can talk to foreign leaders and say whatever he wants!" No interest in discussing the facts at all. Can't even gaslight properly.

Then there is the despicable congresswoman herself. Simple hypocrisy and deflection. Also undermining law enforcement and y'know, what remains of the democratic process.


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Post by Addie » Sun Sep 29, 2019 2:25 pm

Rolling Stone
A Majority of Americans Now Support the Impeachment Probe

And only 17 percent say they were surprised by the president’s actions around Ukraine, according to another poll


For the first time, a majority of Americans—55 percent—now support an impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump, according to a CBS News poll released Sunday. And, two-thirds of Americans believe Trump’s actions in asking Ukraine’s president to dig up dirt on political rival Joe Biden and his son constitute a “serious problem,” according to an ABC News/Ipsos poll. But, according to the same poll, only 17 percent of Americans were surprised by the president’s actions.

Americans are still divided across partisan lines, however, CBS found. An overwhelming majority, 87 percent, of Democrats support the impeachment probe announced by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi this past week, while 27 percent of Republicans and 49 percent of independents said the same. Nearly half (41 percent) of all Americans described Trump’s actions as illegal, and another 31 percent said it was “not proper, but legal.”
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Business Insider: Nancy Pelosi says the public backs Trump's impeachment amid new polls



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Post by p0rtia » Sun Sep 29, 2019 2:47 pm

I'm sorry, did Rolling Stone just report a poll that found only 74 percent of Republicans _don't_ support impeachment? Presumably a mix of "unsure" and "no" on impeachment?

26 percent of Republicans favor impeachment???

Talk about burying the lede (also really badly worded).


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Post by Addie » Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:28 pm

Axios
Poll: 63% of voters say Trump asking Ukraine to probe Biden is a "serious" problem

Nearly two-thirds of the 504 voters polled in a new ABC News/Ipsos survey say that President Trump encouraging the president of Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden is a "serious" problem, including 43% of voters who think it's "very serious."

Why it matters: The request is at the heart of a whistleblower complaint that led Democrats last week to launch a formal impeachment inquiry — something they had previously held off on until public support had risen. Notably, 32% of Republicans found the conversation to be a "serious" or "very serious" problem, compared to 91% of Democrats.
83% of voters polled responded that they were "not so surprised" or "not surprised at all" that Trump had made the request. Only 16% said they were surprised.



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Post by Addie » Sun Sep 29, 2019 7:50 pm

Brookings Institution
Impeachment and public opinion: Three key indicators to watch

There have been two serious efforts in the past half-century to impeach and remove a U.S. president from office. The first, which ended in 1974, led to the resignation of its target—President Richard Nixon. The second, which began in 1998 against President Bill Clinton, led to the resignation of the man who had orchestrated the effort—House Speaker Newt Gingrich.

In the former case, opinion shifted steadily against President Nixon and in favor of removing him from office as the public reacted to swirling events at both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue and learned more about the details of the Watergate affair. In the latter, new information had almost no impact on the views of the people about removing President Clinton, which they opposed from the beginning of this episode to the very end.

Now we have entered the early phase of a third impeachment and removal effort, this time directed against President Donald Trump. Will it lead to triumph or disaster for Democrats? Will it lead to the end of Mr. Trump’s presidency or pave the way for his reelection? We do not know. But history gives us clues about what to watch for along the way.



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Post by Turtle » Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:09 pm

60 Minutes is laying the whole thing out and it looks very bad for Trump. They had Kevin McCarthy on and he was dodging direct questions, then used the talking points and got called out for it. When he got confronted with the text from the memo, he said "you added a word there,"

Pelosi said when Trump called her, he didn't even understand he did anything wrong. They have MBS on next.



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Post by Addie » Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:15 pm

The Hill
Poll: 54 percent say House should cancel recess, start impeachment proceedings quickly

Slightly more than half of voters say the House should cancel its current two-week recess and begin impeachment proceedings as soon as possible, according to a Hill-HarrisX poll released Monday.

The survey found that 54 percent of respondents said they would support lawmakers returning to Washington now to advance the impeachment inquiry, compared to 46 percent who disagreed.

Support for canceling the break was strongest among Democratic voters, at 77 percent.

Among GOP respondents, 36 percent said the House should cancel its recess, with 45 percent of independent voters agreeing. ...

However, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) has made it clear that there are no plans to cancel the recess, saying the break provides a chance for lawmakers to discuss the issue with their constituents.

"I do not expect to cancel the break," Hoyer said on Wednesday. "This is a matter of grave importance, and the American people need to understand what is occurring."

Lawmakers, meanwhile, are slated to return to Washington the week of Oct. 14.



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Of course they do.

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Post by Addie » Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:10 pm

Vox: 5 recent polls show a swing in favor of impeachment

Nancy Pelosi says polling on impeachment has changed. She’s right.



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Post by Addie » Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:16 pm

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CNN Poll: Support for impeaching Trump rises among independents and Republicans

WASHINGTON (CNN)Americans are about evenly split over impeaching President Donald Trump and removing him from office, as support for that move has risen among independents and Republicans, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS after the announcement of a formal impeachment inquiry by House Democrats last week.

About half, 47%, support impeaching the President and removing him from office, up from 41% who felt that way in a CNN poll in May. The current level matches the high point for impeaching Trump in previous CNN polling -- 47% said they felt that way in September 2018.

RELATED: Full poll results

The share who favor impeachment and removal from office now narrowly outpaces the share who say they don't feel that way -- a first in CNN polling -- although the two figures are within the poll's margin of sampling error. Opposition stands at 45% in the new poll, down from 54% who said so in May and the lowest point in CNN polling on this topic.

The change since May has largely come among independents and Republicans. About three-quarters of Democrats favor impeaching Trump and removing him from office, roughly the same as in May, while among independents, support for impeachment and removal has risen 11 points to 46% among independents and 8 points to 14% among Republicans.

The shift has also come notably among younger Americans. Sixty percent of those under age 35 now say they support impeaching Trump and removing him from office, up from 43% who felt that way in May, while support for the move among older Americans has held about even (42% now vs. 40% in May). Previous CNN polling on impeachment has not found such a stark gap by age.



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Post by Orlylicious » Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:41 am

CNBC:
Trump’s approval rating drops to low, but more Americans still oppose impeachment, survey finds
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The latest CNBC All-America Economic Survey found 47% opposing impeachment hearings and 44% approving. The difference is within the poll’s 3.5% margin of error.
Just 37% approve of President Trump’s handling of his job, the lowest level of his presidency.
The poll of 800 Americans nationwide was conducted last week.

Americans by a narrow margin oppose impeachment hearings to remove President Donald Trump from office, according to the latest CNBC All-America Economic Survey. But the CNBC poll of 800 Americans nationwide conducted last week found a significant shift where fewer Americans are opposed to impeachment. It also found a large decline in the president’s overall and economic approval ratings. The survey found 47% opposing impeachment hearings and 44% approving. The difference is within the poll’s 3.5% margin of error.

The results are much closer than when an NBC/Wall Street Journal poll asked the same question in December 2017, finding 41% approving of impeachment hearings and a majority 54% disapproving. “The American people are not jumping towards impeachment,” said Micah Roberts, a partner in Public Opinion Strategies who serves as the Republican pollster for the CNBC survey. “They are cautiously moving away from opposing impeachment.” With 9% of Americans unsure about impeachment, compared to 5% in the NBC/WSJ poll, Roberts notes slightly more growth among the percentage of Americans who are unsure about impeachment as who favor it.

Jay Campbell, partner in Hart Research, the Democratic pollster for CNBC, agreed that what’s been revealed so far “is not enough” to spur public opinion toward majority support of impeachment. But Campbell said the change between the two polls is statistically significant and puts the president “in a precarious situation.” The poll shows that 88% of Republicans oppose impeachment, compared to 76% of Democrats who favor it. Independents are split about evenly, with 42% favoring impeachment and 43% opposing.

The CNBC All-America Economic Survey also found a substantial drop in President’s Trump overall approval rating, hitting the lowest level of his presidency. Just 37% approve of President Trump’s handling of his job and 53% disapprove. The president’s “net approval” (approval minus disapproval) dropped to -16 points, two points worse than the previous low of his presidency in June and September 2017. The decline results substantially from lost support among Independents. To be sure, the change in both the approval and disapproval numbers compared with May are both within the poll’s margin of error. But they amount to a change from net approval of -10 to -16, a potentially significant shift.

The president’s economic approval numbers also took a hit, declining to 42% from 48% in the May CNBC survey. Fifty percent of Americans now disapprove of President Trump’s handling of the economy, up from 43% in May and the largest economic negative rating of his presidency. It’s only the second time since taking office that a CNBC survey found more Americans disapproving of his handling of the economy than approving. The CNBC poll found that 45% of the public is concerned impeachment will have a negative effect on the stock market, and 40% are worried about the effect on the economy. Just 23% believe it will hurt their personal financial situation. Republicans are twice as concerned as Democrats about the potential economic impact of impeachment.
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