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Post by Orlylicious » Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:46 pm

Jim Hoft's Gateway House of Boys and Pundits is turning on the RNC and leadership. I like and support this. If they lose rank and file Trumpers, they'll have nothing to lose speaking out against all this criminal activity.

OUTRAGEOUS! RNC Leaders, Senate and House GOP Leaders Go AWOL as Dems Attempt Another Coup of President Trump
by Jim Hoft November 4, 2019

Where are the AWOL GOP Leaders? Gateway Pundit reader Mark sent this in…
I spent time with groups of friends recently watching World Series, NFL games, etc. Those moderately informed Americans on politics are PISSED OFF, I mean really pissed off… They’re seeing content from the right blocked & removed. They see mostly honorable or outspoken conservatives get investigated, media attacked, even arrested for frivolous infractions via politics. But actual criminals on the left just get long drawn out reports, or hearings, recommendations, and maybe a demotion (maybe). Many are upset the GOP leadership seems silent on impeachment help. They think the left media is winning big time, and I agree.
It’s true!… Except for two people, The GOP has ZERO content, nothing to correct the narrative about impeachment.
They’re not even trying to help out. They have absolutely no offense.
Here’s search results for videos on Google and Youtube for the last 2 weeks.

RNC
Ronna McDaniel (RNC chair) – 2 FOX News interviews, one just about fundraising. Nothing on Youtube.
Thomas Hicks Jr. (Co-chair) – Nothing anywhere, ever. This guy is a ghost.
Ron Kaufman (Treasurer) – Nothing on Youtube, or anywhere.
Vicki Drummond (Secretary) – Nothing on Youtube, or anywhere.
Doyle Webb (General Counsel) – Nothing on Youtube, or anywhere.

Congressional Leaders:

Monotone Mitch McConnell (Senate Majority Leader) – 3 public comments, 2 w/press, one on Senate floor, total 5-6 minutes. No interviews.
John Thune (Senate whip) – One interview, mostly economy. A 30 second audio, “The picture coming out is not good for Trump”.
Roy Blunt (Senate Conference Vice Chair) – One with press gaggle at Senate, 90 seconds. Condemned Lt. Col. Vindman attacks.
Judiciary Chair Lindsey Graham: Several interviews, refuses to hold senate committee hearings.
Kevin McCarthy (House leader) – Many, doing OK.
Steve Scalise (House whip) – Several, he’s not an issue, but could do more.
Liz Cheney (House Conference Chair) – One with House press gaggle. Condemned attacks on Col. Vindman.
Gary Palmer (House Policy Chair) – One radio interview on Youtube, locall Birmingham station, mostly about Tiger Woods comeback.

Freedom Caucus Members: Mark Meadows, Andy Biggs, Jim Jordan, Matt Gaetz, Scott Perry, Louis Gohmert, Paul Gosar, etc have been exceptional as usual. Rep. Devin Nunes has been exceptional as usual.


The rest of the GOP is AWOL.
They need to get off their asses and defend this president!
If they fail the Trump voters WILL NEVER forgive them.
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Post by much ado » Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:57 pm

Yeah, well, it looks like GOP politicians are coming to the realization that Trump's actions are essentially indefensible. (And there is no WH strategy to put forth a coherent narrative that CAN be defended.) So they are ceasing to defend. SAD!

But they still need to save their own skins. How will that work?



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Post by pipistrelle » Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:11 pm

much ado wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:57 pm
Yeah, well, it looks like GOP politicians are coming to the realization that Trump's actions are essentially indefensible. (And there is no WH strategy to put forth a coherent narrative that CAN be defended.) So they are ceasing to defend. SAD!

But they still need to save their own skins. How will that work?
Let me know when Susan Collins furrows her brow in concern.



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Post by much ado » Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:27 am

pipistrelle wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:11 pm
much ado wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:57 pm
Yeah, well, it looks like GOP politicians are coming to the realization that Trump's actions are essentially indefensible. (And there is no WH strategy to put forth a coherent narrative that CAN be defended.) So they are ceasing to defend. SAD!

But they still need to save their own skins. How will that work?
Let me know when Susan Collins furrows her brow in concern.
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Post by bob » Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:28 am

DrIrvingFinegarten wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:12 am
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4686 ... -be-public

Out the whistleblower is illegal, is it not?
From that article:
However, nothing legally prohibits members of Congress, or the president himself, from revealing a whistleblower’s identity unless the individual is a covert agent.
There might be some caveats and exceptions to that generalized statemnt.


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Post by Turtle » Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:43 am

They already got the dumbass Jim Hoft to post the name of the whistleblower, but no one else is touching it. Probably is what has him so salty now.



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Post by Sugar Magnolia » Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:03 am

Turtle wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:43 am
They already got the dumbass Jim Hoft to post the name of the whistleblower, but no one else is touching it. Probably is what has him so salty now.
Hoft posted A name. No guarantee it's the correct name.



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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:34 am

pipistrelle wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:11 pm
much ado wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:57 pm
Yeah, well, it looks like GOP politicians are coming to the realization that Trump's actions are essentially indefensible. (And there is no WH strategy to put forth a coherent narrative that CAN be defended.) So they are ceasing to defend. SAD!

But they still need to save their own skins. How will that work?
Let me know when Susan Collins furrows her brow in concern.
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Post by Chilidog » Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:39 am

What's happening with that lawsuit by the guy who didn't want to testify?



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Post by fierceredpanda » Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:51 am

Chilidog wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:39 am
What's happening with that lawsuit by the guy who didn't want to testify?
Final hearing December 10. Meh.


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Post by Addie » Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:33 am

CNN
Impeachment bombshells highlight Trump's power grabs

Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump seems to sense a chance to leverage expansive, uncheckable power everywhere he looks.

A common thread is emerging from the impeachment bombshells, court fights and multiple scandals all coming to head this week inside the one-year mark to the next general election. It's a picture of a President and his men who subscribe to a staggeringly broad interpretation of executive power and have no reservations about using it often for domestic political ends.

The trend, which threatens to recast the conception of the presidency shared by America's founders, shone through the first witness testimony released from the impeachment inquiry Monday. ...

The notion that Trump misused the power of his office to set foreign policy for personal political profit in Ukraine is at the center of the building Democratic impeachment case against him.

"With each new interview, we learn more about the President's attempt to manipulate the levers of power to his personal political benefit," House Intelligence Chairman Adam Schiff, a California Democrat, said on Monday.



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Post by Addie » Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:56 am

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U.S. judge fast-tracks hearing over House impeachment subpoena to former national security aide Charles Kupperman

A federal judge on Monday fast-tracked a former national security aide’s request for the courts to decide whether he must comply with a White House order not to testify or Congress’s subpoena in the House impeachment inquiry.

U.S. District Judge Richard J. Leon of Washington ordered final arguments to be held Dec. 10 at the request of Charles Kupperman, a former deputy national security adviser in the Trump administration.

Leon had previously said he intended not to take up the merits of the lawsuit until a later date. His shift comes as more White House officials have defied subpoenas but sets up a potentially landmark legal battle over the White House’s ability to defy Congress’s impeachment powers.

Kupperman, who served as deputy to former national security adviser John Bolton, filed a lawsuit asking for a court to resolve the competing demands.



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Post by Addie » Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:21 am

The Guardian: Kafka in Foggy Bottom: impeachment transcript reveals fear of Trump tweets

Testimony of veteran diplomat Marie Yovanovitch exposes Trump’s paralysing hold on the administration
Yahoo News: Release of House transcripts darkens prospects for Trump



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Post by Addie » Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:37 pm

WaPo Editorial
Trump’s pure, brazen contempt for Congress is on full display

“HE MUST be brought forward to testify,” President Trump fumed on Twitter on Monday, regarding the whistleblower who revealed the president’s corrupt attempts to extort political favors from Ukraine. “Written answers not acceptable!”

The president considered written answers more than adequate when special counsel Robert S. Mueller III sought information from Mr. Trump during the Justice Department’s Russia investigation. More to the point, if Mr. Trump were interested in fact-finding and truth-telling, rather than distracting from the substance of the charges against him, he would provide documents and encourage all relevant witnesses to testify. Instead, administration officials are refusing to testify before the House Intelligence Committee — officials who likely have firsthand knowledge crucial to the House’s impeachment inquiry.

Robert Blair, an aide to acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney, was on the call during which Mr. Trump pressed Ukraine’s president to investigate former vice president Joe Biden. John Eisenberg, a National Security Council lawyer, reportedly suggested limiting access to the transcript of that call and told others not to discuss it. Russell Vought, the acting director of the Office of Management and Budget, might shed light on Mr. Trump’s peremptory suspension of military aid to Ukraine, an act that appears to have been an element in the president’s corrupt pressure campaign.

These no-shows are just the latest examples of the contemptuous war Mr. Trump and his allies have waged on Congress and its legitimate, constitutional oversight role, starting well before the impeachment inquiry. Even when Republicans controlled both chambers, former White House adviser Stephen K. Bannon absurdly claimed executive privilege to refuse to answer congressional questions. A White House lawyer in June stopped former Trump aide Hope Hicks from answering even basic queries, on the lawless argument that the one-time presidential assistant had absolute immunity from testifying. That is the same basis on which government lawyers claim former White House counsel Donald McGahn and former deputy national security adviser Charles Kupperman bear no duty to testify before Congress.

Judges will almost certainly dismiss these arguments, but likely too late for their ruling to be useful to the House impeachment inquiry. The record already contains damning evidence of Mr. Trump’s misconduct, but the public deserves to learn the full story — and the public servants who participated in these events have a duty to recount what they know.



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Post by Addie » Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:05 pm

WaPo: House impeachment investigators seek deposition from acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney

BREAKING: “Based on evidence gathered in the impeachment inquiry and public reporting, we believe that you possess substantial first-hand knowledge and information relevant to the House’s impeachment inquiry,” the chairmen of the three committees wrote to Mulvaney.

The White House official and former congressman is unlikely to show.

This story will update.



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Post by Kendra » Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:22 pm

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Jennifer Williams, a senior adviser to Mike Pence, is likely to comply with a request to testify on Thursday in front of the committees leading the impeachment inquiry.



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Post by TexasFilly » Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:09 pm

That's interesting. Is Mike Pence trying to avoid an obstruction charge himself?

Meanwhile, Sondland and Volker's deposition excerpts have been released, full transcripts to come later today. Looks like Sondland "revised" his deposition significantly, after he heard how subsequent witnesses testified. Another rich criminal, IMHO.


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Post by RTH10260 » Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:54 pm

Addie wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:21 am
The Guardian: Kafka in Foggy Bottom: impeachment transcript reveals fear of Trump tweets

Testimony of veteran diplomat Marie Yovanovitch exposes Trump’s paralysing hold on the administration
:snippity:
TheGuardian wrote:When Yovanovitch went to see the deputy secretary of state, John Sullivan, he confirmed that she had lost the confidence of the president, again without explaining how or why. His explanation of the urgent call in the middle of the night was equally bizarre.

“They were worried that if I wasn’t physically out of Ukraine, that there would be, some sort of public either tweet or something else from the White House,” Yovanovitch testified. “And so this was to make sure that I would be treated with as much respect as possible.”

The ambassador had been evacuated not because of some outside threat, but in fear of a tweet from the president. The terrible capricious power of Trump’s Twitter outbursts, and their paralysing effect on the administration, is a striking theme of the Yovanovitch transcript.

She had grown accustomed to a whispering campaign against her from Ukrainian politicians and businessmen for whom she had made life difficult, but when an article appeared on The Hill news site, recycling Ukrainian smears against her, she asked for a show of support from her secretary of state, Mike Pompeo. Such support for an ambassador in a critical post should have been a given, but Pompeo remained silent.



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Post by Volkonski » Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:02 pm

Kyle Cheney
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WOW: Kurt Volker TEXTED to a top Ukrainian official the script they wanted Zelensky to read to announce the Burisma (i.e. Biden)/2016 election investigaitons.

The latest:

https://politico.com/news/2019/11/05/so ... quo-000318
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Post by Volkonski » Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:04 pm

Sondland, Trump's appointee, changes testimony to say there was clear quid pro quo

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4690 ... c4.twitter
U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland said Trump withheld U.S. military aid to Ukraine in an effort to secure investigations into the 2016 election and the president’s political adversaries, according to a transcript released Tuesday by Democrats conducting the impeachment investigation.

:snippity:

Sondland, a Republican mega-donor who gave $1 million to Trump’s inauguration, was interviewed by lawmakers behind closed doors on Oct. 17 but revised his testimony on Monday, after a string of subsequent witnesses appeared before the three committees leading the impeachment investigation.

In the revision, Sondland said he recalled a Sept. 1 meeting with Andriy Yermak, a top aide to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, in which the aid was contingent on a public statement from Zelensky regarding launching probes that would benefit Trump politically.

“After a large meeting, I now recall speaking individually with Mr. Yermak, where I said that resumption of U.S. aid would likely not occur until Ukraine provided the public anti-corruption statement that we had been discussing for many weeks,” Sondland said.


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Post by Chilidog » Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:32 pm

:roll:

It’s funny how the prospect of real jail time improves the memory



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Post by NMgirl » Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:06 pm

Chilidog wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:32 pm
:roll:

It’s funny how the prospect of real jail time improves the memory
Focuses the mind, doncha know.

Why is Sondland hanging on as EU ambassador, though? Does he think he’ll be able to dodge that oncoming bus? :-D



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Post by Somerset » Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:09 pm

NMgirl wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:06 pm
Chilidog wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:32 pm
:roll:

It’s funny how the prospect of real jail time improves the memory
Focuses the mind, doncha know.

Why is Sondland hanging on as EU ambassador, though? Does he think he’ll be able to dodge that oncoming bus? :-D
My guess is he paid good money for that gig, so he's going to enjoy it for as long as he can ;)



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Post by Addie » Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:12 pm

Cross-posting

The Hill
DOJ places new legal barrier between Democrats and Trump impeachment witnesses

The Justice Department opened a new front in the legal battle between congressional impeachment investigators and the White House on Tuesday by announcing that Congress must allow government attorneys to accompany executive branch witnesses who testify about President Trump's relations with Ukraine.

In a newly released memo, the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel said “the assistance of agency counsel” is needed because testimony has the potential to disclose information “protected by executive privilege.”

The House Intelligence Committee, which has taken the lead on the impeachment inquiry, has heard from a number of witnesses whose personal lawyers have been allowed to attend depositions. But the Justice Department argued in its memo that the exclusion of government lawyers deprives Trump of his constitutional power to screen privileged information from lawmakers.

The department’s new legal posture is the latest development in the fight between Congress and the White House over access to information that House Democrats say is necessary to assess the strength of an impeachment case against Trump. ...

“The [House Intelligence Committee] could address this separation of powers problem by allowing agency counsel to assist the employee during the deposition,” the memo says. “Should the committee not do so, however, a subpoena purporting to require a witness to appear without such assistance would be invalid and not subject to civil or criminal enforcement.”



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