Intelligence/Judiciary Impeachment Investigation: Trump Obstruction; Abuse of Power; Whistleblower(s)

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Seems like this hit a critical mass so quickly the WH is unable to spin it.


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Seems there is another whistleblower - on Trumps taxes. SURPRISE!

Havent read the Huffpost article as its WAY too late in the night.


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Yo, there's a second whistleblower, who alleges Trump tried to interfere with the IRS audit of his taxes.

https://t.co/WGPZ2w9H58


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Turtle wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:49 pm Seems like this hit a critical mass so quickly the WH is unable to spin it.
Or Trump is genuinely in such a self rightous rage over bieng Impeached that he has genuinely unclassified it, genuinely thinking that he has done nothing wrong and that once people see it, everyone will see he is right, and everyone will go back to worshiping his ass.

Narsasistic self delusion feeding into his self destruction. He cannot ever be wrong, and he is disintigrating to such a degree that he is grasping at any straw he can. He CANNOT BE THE PRESIDENT THAT IS IMPEACHED!! HE CANNOT BE THAT LOSER!!


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Oh my! Now the IRS! Isn't that a tsk, tsk, tsk. Who will be third?


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The IRS whistleblower has been publicly disclosed (in a court filing) for some time. Relatively old news.


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poplove wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:40 pm MSNBC just said the complaint would be released tomorrow and with minimal redactions.
I am duty bound to make a whistle blower complaint in regards to:
<170 pages redacted>
In relation to the text of the following telephone conversation between President Donald Trump and
<3 pages redacted>
Trump: Hello.
<redacted 26 pages>
Trump: Good Bye.
<12 pages redacted>


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:rotflmao:


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 ! Message from: Foggy
We're obviously going to need an Impeachment forum. I'm not gonna spend a lot of time merging topics or moving posts around, but I will create a new subforum and move all the impeachment threads into it, just for organizational y purposes.

This will include threads about the whistle-blower complaint that started it rolling, but NOT the thread about the 25th Amendment (because that's not impeachment).

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I am not "someone upthread".
Trump needs to be smashed into some kind of inedible orange pâté.
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I have to go to work now? When all this is hitting the fan? :swoon:


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GreatGrey wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:49 am Here ya go.

https://intelligence.house.gov/uploaded ... nclass.pdf
Oh wow.


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Kendra wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:53 am I have to go to work now? When all this is hitting the fan? :swoon:
:hitthefan:


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Extortion and coverup. Zelensky required to show he would "play ball" before Trump would meet with him.


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I haven't tuned-in FoxNews, but I imagine
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And, something something Biden something Obama and something Hilary something but her emails....


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Cross-posting
Talking Points Memo: Report: Ukraine Dirt Scandal Began As Search For Manafort Pardon Rationale

The effort by President Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani to dig up dirt on Joe and Hunter Biden began as something else — a search for a rationale to pardon former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, the New York Review of Books reported Wednesday.


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Chilidog wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:18 am
Kendra wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:53 am I have to go to work now? When all this is hitting the fan? :swoon:
:hitthefan:
Worse, the stinking CNN phone app wouldn't let me log in to Comcast so I could listen in the car :madguy:


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I listened to Shiff’s opening statement, Maguire’s opening statement, and the beginning of Nunnes’ statement. I’m done. I am going in and out, but I hate theses five-minutes of back-and-forth questioning. I was hoping to see counsel questioning rather than sound-byte TV.

It seems to me, from what I’ve heard, that Maguire might have had an exemplary career and background before being named as the 5,345th “acting” by twitler. No one who goes to work for him comes out of this with a good reputation left.

This is also what happens when someone is totally unqualified is chosen as president. He never had a clue and never will.


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Oh, yeah :like:
AndyinPA wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:45 am I was hoping to see counsel questioning rather than sound-byte TV.


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My favorite moment was when McGuire said there were many people more qualified than he to be acting DNI!!!! Indeed.


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CBS News: Pelosi says White House effort to "lock down" Ukraine call was a "cover-up"
The New Yorker: The Whistle-Blower Complaint Is Democracy at Work, Not the Deep State
Reuters: For Ukraine's leader, Trump memo on their call is a diplomatic car crash


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Donald's melting down, he just proposed killing the whistleblower as a spy. Maggie Haberman:



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New York Times - Maggie Haberman
Trump Attacks Whistle-Blower's Sources and Alludes to Punishment for "Spies"

WASHINGTON — President Trump on Thursday morning told a crowd of staff from the United States Mission to the United Nations that he wants to know who provided information to a whistle-blower about his phone call with the president of Ukraine, saying that whoever did so was “close to a spy” and that “in the old days,” spies were dealt with differently.

The remark stunned people in the audience, according to a person briefed on what took place, who had notes of what the president said. Mr. Trump made the statement about several minutes into his remarks before the group of about 50 people at the event intended to honor the United States Mission. At the outset, he condemned the former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s role in Ukraine at a time when his son Hunter Biden was on the board of a Ukrainian energy company.

Mr. Trump repeatedly referred to the whistle-blower and condemned the news media reporting on the complaint as “crooked.” He then said the whistle-blower never heard the call in question.

“I want to know who’s the person who gave the whistle-blower the information because that’s close to a spy,” Mr. Trump said. “You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart with spies and treason, right? We used to handle it a little differently than we do now.”


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