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Post by Dr. Kenneth Noisewater » Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:31 pm

I didn't see this yesterday but it looks like another reason Rex was probably let go.

http://www.newsweek.com/jared-kushner-t ... ate-853339
Former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson was reportedly aggrieved at Jared Kushner for what he and other senior White House officials perceived as the president's son-in-law conducting U.S. foreign policy with little consultation or supervision.
It looks like Jared was speaking to foreign leaders and going around Tillerson and it was pissing Rex off.

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Another guy who didn't mind to using tax payer $$$ in great amounts
Rex Tillerson's $12 million army of consultants
The cost-cutting former Secretary of State had grand ambitions for a department ‘redesign,’ but its clearest impact is a huge bill for consultants, some of whom charged more than $300 an hour.
By NAHAL TOOSI 04/05/2018 05:00 AM EDT

It was one of Secretary of State Rex Tillerson’s core goals: radically reshaping the State Department to make it leaner, cheaper and modernized to the standards of a former private-sector CEO.

Now that Tillerson has been fired, the vaunted "Redesign" initiative he launched faces an uncertain future, but at least one clear legacy: around $12 million dollars spent just for private consultants who in some cases charged the State Department more than $300 an hour.

The figures, included in materials obtained by POLITICO and confirmed in part by a State Department spokesperson, have not previously been reported. Most of the money has gone to the consulting firm Deloitte as part of a pre-existing federal contract whose ceiling was lifted to $265 million, an indication of the redesign’s ambitions.

As many as 90 consultants worked on the project, according to one document. Many of the consultants have spent extensive time at the State Department, meeting with top officials, collecting and analyzing data, creating PowerPoint presentations and leading group discussions with skeptical employees.


https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/ ... nts-503557

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RTH10260 wrote:
Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:28 am
Another guy who didn't mind to using tax payer $$$ in great amounts
Rex Tillerson's $12 million army of consultants
The cost-cutting former Secretary of State had grand ambitions for a department ‘redesign,’ but its clearest impact is a huge bill for consultants, some of whom charged more than $300 an hour.
By NAHAL TOOSI 04/05/2018 05:00 AM EDT

It was one of Secretary of State Rex Tillerson’s core goals: radically reshaping the State Department to make it leaner, cheaper and modernized to the standards of a former private-sector CEO.

Now that Tillerson has been fired, the vaunted "Redesign" initiative he launched faces an uncertain future, but at least one clear legacy: around $12 million dollars spent just for private consultants who in some cases charged the State Department more than $300 an hour.

The figures, included in materials obtained by POLITICO and confirmed in part by a State Department spokesperson, have not previously been reported. Most of the money has gone to the consulting firm Deloitte as part of a pre-existing federal contract whose ceiling was lifted to $265 million, an indication of the redesign’s ambitions.

As many as 90 consultants worked on the project, according to one document. Many of the consultants have spent extensive time at the State Department, meeting with top officials, collecting and analyzing data, creating PowerPoint presentations and leading group discussions with skeptical employees.


https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/ ... nts-503557
Such a typical corporate ploy. Anyone here who hasn't been through these consultant-driven overhauls? LEAN? Six Sigma? (I once spent months and months on a team using Six Sigma to overhaul an office process (onboarding in HR for new employees). Literally, this could have been accomplished in one meeting with key players. It was NOT rocket science. (For example, it doesn't take statistical analysis to know that if you don't get the new employee his or her company-issued cell phone and laptop within a day or two of his initial employment, he or she will not be very productive.)
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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:32 pm

AND Rexie ignored a redesign plan developed inhouse by the State Department itself while HRC was Secretary of State.
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Post by Dan1100 » Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:29 pm

SLQ wrote:
Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:42 am
RTH10260 wrote:
Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:28 am
Another guy who didn't mind to using tax payer $$$ in great amounts
Rex Tillerson's $12 million army of consultants


By NAHAL TOOSI 04/05/2018 05:00 AM EDT

It was one of Secretary of State Rex Tillerson’s core goals: radically reshaping the State Department to make it leaner, cheaper and modernized to the standards of a former private-sector CEO.

Now that Tillerson has been fired, the vaunted "Redesign" initiative he launched faces an uncertain future, but at least one clear legacy: around $12 million dollars spent just for private consultants who in some cases charged the State Department more than $300 an hour.

The figures, included in materials obtained by POLITICO and confirmed in part by a State Department spokesperson, have not previously been reported. Most of the money has gone to the consulting firm Deloitte as part of a pre-existing federal contract whose ceiling was lifted to $265 million, an indication of the redesign’s ambitions.

As many as 90 consultants worked on the project, according to one document. Many of the consultants have spent extensive time at the State Department, meeting with top officials, collecting and analyzing data, creating PowerPoint presentations and leading group discussions with skeptical employees.


https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/ ... nts-503557
Such a typical corporate ploy. Anyone here who hasn't been through these consultant-driven overhauls? LEAN? Six Sigma? (I once spent months and months on a team using Six Sigma to overhaul an office process (onboarding in HR for new employees). Literally, this could have been accomplished in one meeting with key players. It was NOT rocket science. (For example, it doesn't take statistical analysis to know that if you don't get the new employee his or her company-issued cell phone and laptop within a day or two of his initial employment, he or she will not be very productive.)
A Six Sigma consultant (an iridescent super duper whatever belt) in a moment of drunken honesty told me that all the Quality Management principles were invented by 1950 and everything that has come since was just different ways to market it to upper management.
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Post by RTH10260 » Wed May 16, 2018 8:56 pm

Tillerson warns of 'crisis of ethics and integrity' in US
By CONOR FINNEGAN May 16, 2018, 1:56 PM ET

Former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson had a stark warning Wednesday about a "crisis of ethics and integrity" and the dangers of "alternative realities" and leaders who "seek to conceal the truth."

In his first major speech since he was fired by President Donald Trump in March, Tillerson gave the commencement address at the Virginia Military Institute in Lexington, Va., and although he never mentioned Trump specifically, the pointed remarks appeared to be shots at his former boss.

"If our leaders seek to conceal the truth or we as people become accepting of alternative realities that are no longer grounded in facts, then we as American citizens are on a pathway to relinquishing our freedom," he told the graduates.

At the center of "a growing crisis of ethics and integrity," he said, was that kind of assault on the truth, the "central tenet of a free society."

"When we as people, a free people, go wobbly on the truth – even on what may seem the most trivial of matters – we go wobbly on America," Tillerson added. "If we do not as Americans confront the crisis of ethics and integrity in our society and among our leaders in both public and private sector – and regrettably at times even the nonprofit sector – then American democracy as we know it is entering its twilight years."



https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/tillers ... d=55211178

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Post by Chilidog » Wed May 16, 2018 9:04 pm

Blow me, rex

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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Wed May 16, 2018 9:10 pm

More grumblebragging to cover his incompetence and cowardice.

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Post by RoadScholar » Wed May 16, 2018 10:56 pm

In his case, hindsight is 20/200.
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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Thu May 17, 2018 2:16 pm

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/ronan-farro ... state/amp/?

Vide o of interview at link.
Ronan Farrow on Rex Tillerson: He Told Me He Didn’t Know What He Was Doing As Secretary of State

Ronan Farrow spoke to Seth Meyers last night on Late Night, and he offered some interesting insight into what he learned about Rex Tillerson while writing his foreign policy book: War On Peace.

After Meyers finished his mock White House press briefing, he spoke to Farrow about the former secretary of state’s very frank comments in the book.

“Tillerson, if he had any logic, knew that he was going to be fired on some level,” Farrow said. “Maybe that’s why he’s so frank in this book. He basically says ‘I didn’t know what I was doing, I wasn’t experienced enough for it.'”

Farrow continued to say that Tillerson blames the White House for his unceremonious dismissal earlier this year, but Farrow wasn’t “surprised” since “it is apparent to anyone looking at the State Department…that it’s become something of a dumpster fire.” Farrow called it a sad state of affairs, considering how often the people working there have to do a lot of unglamorous, unappreciated work to advance American international interests.
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Post by p0rtia » Thu May 17, 2018 2:24 pm

So Rex wants to run for president now, I see.
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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Thu May 17, 2018 3:54 pm

Huh? Tillerson admits he didn't know what he was doing as SOS (pretty obvious to almost everyone) and he's unhappy he got fired?

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Post by Chilidog » Thu May 17, 2018 4:03 pm

How the Fuck did Tillerson get to be the CEO of Exxon without knowing how to make use of an existing staff?

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Post by Notorial Dissent » Thu May 17, 2018 4:39 pm

Does kind of make one wonder.
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Post by Volkonski » Thu May 17, 2018 5:18 pm

Chilidog wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 4:03 pm
How the Fuck did Tillerson get to be the CEO of Exxon without knowing how to make use of an existing staff?
Tillerson came up thru the ranks at Exxon and knew that system and culture inside out. However that was his only experience. He never worked anywhere else.

Exxon is its own place. This was clear after the merger with Mobil. It was not a merger of equals. All those Mobil folks had to be Exxonized. They were.

By the time he became president and CEO he had known all the top people for years. They were all highly competent fact-driven people. He knew who to trust.

At the State Department the culture was no doubt very different. All the top people were strangers. There was constant interference from a White House many of whose staff lived in a sort of La La Land.

He never should have taken that job. I am still surprised he did.
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Post by Suranis » Fri May 18, 2018 2:28 pm


ABC News
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Former Sec. of State Rex Tillerson warns of "crisis of ethics and integrity" in the U.S.

"When we as people, a free people, go wobbly on the truth...we go wobbly on America." https://abcn.ws/2L8eQRR
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Post by PaulG » Fri May 18, 2018 3:05 pm

His definition of integrity was something like "the state of being whole and undivided" then he gave examples like a building that wouldn't fall down because it had integrity. What a dick. I've certainly sat through a few graduations and heard worthless speeches but this one takes the cake. Or does he think he has integrity because he doesn't collapse completely?

The complete speech. Not recommended.

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Post by Addie » Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:34 am

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Former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson says President Donald Trump is 'undisciplined'

Former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said his time working for President Donald Trump was "challenging," calling his former boss "undisciplined."

"He acts on his instincts," Tillerson said Thursday, according to the Houston Chronicle. "In some respects, that looks like impulsiveness. But it's not his intent to act on impulse. I think he really is trying to act on his instincts."

Trump’s former top diplomat made the comment during a talk with Bob Schieffer of CBS News at a fundraiser in Houston.

He continued: "It was challenging for me, coming from the disciplined, highly process-oriented Exxon Mobil Corporation, to go to work for a man who is pretty undisciplined, doesn't like to read, doesn't read briefing reports, doesn't like to get into the details of a lot things." ...

On Thursday, Tillerson also doubled down his previous assertions about Russian interference in the 2016 election.

"There’s no question" that Russia meddled, he said, adding that the interference was well-documented within intelligence agencies, according to the Chronicle.

“What Russia wants to do is undermine our confidence and undermine the world’s confidence in us,” Tillerson said.

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Post by Chilidog » Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:36 pm

Sory, but there is little difference between Trump's "instinct" and his impulses.


Neither are based in logic, reason, or considered thought.

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Post by Foggy » Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:55 pm

“What Russia wants to do is undermine our confidence and undermine the world’s confidence in us,” Tillerson said.
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Post by RoadScholar » Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:58 pm

"Undisciplined" wins the Pulitzer Prize for Understatement.
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Post by Kendra » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:07 pm

Mike Pompeo is doing a great job, I am very proud of him. His predecessor, Rex Tillerson, didn’t have the mental capacity needed. He was dumb as a rock and I couldn’t get rid of him fast enough. He was lazy as hell. Now it is a whole new ballgame, great spirit at State!
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Post by Addie » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:10 pm

Oh, dear :lol:

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Post by Sugar Magnolia » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:11 pm

Kendra wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:07 pm
Mike Pompeo is doing a great job, I am very proud of him. His predecessor, Rex Tillerson, didn’t have the mental capacity needed. He was dumb as a rock and I couldn’t get rid of him fast enough. He was lazy as hell. Now it is a whole new ballgame, great spirit at State!
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I guess that's why he hired him?

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Sugar Magnolia wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:11 pm
Kendra wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:07 pm
https://twitter .com/realDonaldTrump/status/1071132880368132096
Mike Pompeo is doing a great job, I am very proud of him. His predecessor, Rex Tillerson, didn’t have the mental capacity needed. He was dumb as a rock and I couldn’t get rid of him fast enough. He was lazy as hell. Now it is a whole new ballgame, great spirit at State!
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I guess that's why he hired him?
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