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Post by Chilidog » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:08 pm

I'm surprised, but Putin's bagman doesn't have his own thread yet.

anyway

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/n ... are_btn_tw
Donald Trump’s commerce secretary, Wilbur Ross, is doing business with Vladimir Putin’s son-in-law through a shipping venture in Russia.

Leaked documents and public filings show that Ross holds a stake in a shipping company, Navigator, through a chain of offshore investments. Navigator operates a lucrative partnership with Sibur, a Russian gas company part-owned by Kirill Shamalov, the husband of Putin’s daughter Katerina Tikhonova.

Ross, a billionaire and close friend of Trump, retained holdings in Navigator even after taking office this year. The relationship means that he stands to benefit from the operations of a Russian company run by Putin’s family and close allies, some of whom are under US sanctions.

Corporate records show Navigator ramped up its relationship with Sibur from 2014, as the US and EU imposed sanctions on Russians. The measures followed Putin’s aggression in eastern Ukraine and annexation of Crimea. Navigator has collected $68m in revenue from its Sibur partnership since 2014.



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Post by Kendra » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:13 pm

You beat me to it. NYT and NBC are also reporting this.



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Post by Chilidog » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:15 pm

He's going to get linked to Manafort through Cyprus.



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Post by Kendra » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:18 pm

Chilidog wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:15 pm
He's going to get linked to Manafort through Cyprus.
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Post by Volkonski » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:27 pm

Paradise Papers: Leaks Show Wilbur Ross Hid Ties to Putin Cronies

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politi ... d_nn_tw_ma
Wilbur Ross, the commerce secretary in the Trump administration, shares business interests with Vladimir Putin’s immediate family, and he failed to clearly disclose those interests when he was being confirmed for his cabinet position.

Ross — a billionaire industrialist — retains an interest in a shipping company, Navigator Holdings, that was partially owned by his former investment company. One of Navigator’s most important business relationships is with a Russian energy firm controlled, in turn, by Putin’s son-in-law and other members of the Russian president’s inner circle.

Some of the details of Ross’s continuing financial holdings — much of which were not disclosed during his confirmation process — are revealed in a trove of more than 7 million internal documents of Appleby, a Bermuda-based law firm, that was leaked to the German newspaper Süddeutsche Zeitung. The documents consist of emails, presentations and other electronic data. These were then shared with the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists — a global network that won the Pulitzer Prize this year for its work on the Panama Papers — and its international media partners. NBC News was given access to some of the leaked documents, which the ICIJ calls the “Paradise Papers.”

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In Ross’s case, the documents give a far fuller picture of his finances than the filings he submitted to the government on Jan. 15 as part of his confirmation process. On that date, Ross, President-elect Donald Trump’s choice for commerce secretary, submitted a letter to the designated ethics official at the department, explaining steps he was taking to avoid all conflicts of interest.


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Post by mmmirele » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:32 pm

Suddeutsche Zeitung has a story with diagrams describing Wilbur Ross' entanglements. It is in English.

https://projekte.sueddeutsche.de/paradi ... s-e333048/



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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:03 pm

Why all the Russian entanglements? There’s a shitload of money to be stolen there. The oligarchs are former communist party officials who know how to steal from the people. And they need westerners to help them escape when the next revolution comes. As it will.



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Wilbur Ross is corrupt? Quelle surprise!


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Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:03 pm
Why all the Russian entanglements? There’s a shitload of money to be stolen there. The oligarchs are former communist party officials who know how to steal from the people. And they need westerners to help them escape when the next revolution comes. As it will.


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Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:03 pm
Why all the Russian entanglements? There’s a shitload of money to be stolen there. The oligarchs are former communist party officials who know how to steal from the people. And they need westerners to help them escape when the next revolution comes. As it will.
I remember when the Soviet Union broke apart, that American Wall Street types went over there to give them advice how to set up their financial system. I think it was their wet dream, to set up a financial system with no Fed or SEC to tell them what to do. And that's what they did and you can see the result they got.


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Post by Kendra » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:12 pm

I swear, every time someone picks up a rock, there's just more stench of Russia connections.



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Post by TexasFilly » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:15 pm

Dan1100 wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:09 pm
Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:03 pm
Why all the Russian entanglements? There’s a shitload of money to be stolen there. The oligarchs are former communist party officials who know how to steal from the people. And they need westerners to help them escape when the next revolution comes. As it will.
I remember when the Soviet Union broke apart, that American Wall Street types went over there to give them advice how to set up their financial system. I think it was their wet dream, to set up a financial system with no Fed or SEC to tell them what to do. And that's what they did and you can see the result they got.
Yep. Ask Bill Browder.


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Post by RTH10260 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:21 pm

About the Paradise Papers Investigation
The Paradise Papers is a global investigation into the offshore activities of some of the world’s most powerful people and companies.

The International Consortium of Investigative Journalists and 95 media partners explored 13.4 million leaked files from a combination of offshore service providers and the company registries of some of the world’s most secretive countries.

The files were obtained by the German newspaper Süddeutsche Zeitung.

The Paradise Papers documents include nearly 7 million loan agreements, financial statements, emails, trust deeds and other paperwork from nearly 50 years at Appleby, a leading offshore law firm with offices in Bermuda and beyond.

The documents also include files from a smaller, family-owned trust company, Asiaciti, and from company registries in 19 secrecy jurisdictions. The records range from complex, 100-page corporate transaction sheets and dollar-by-dollar payment ledgers to simple corporate registries of countries, such as Antigua & Barbuda, that do not publicly list names of company shareholders or directors.

As a whole, the Paradise Papers files expose offshore holdings of political leaders and their financiers as well as household-name companies that slash taxes through transactions conducted in secret. Financial deals of billionaires and celebrities are also revealed in the documents.

The Paradise Papers files include far more information about U.S. citizens, residents and companies than previous ICIJ investigations – at least 31,000 of them.

https://www.icij.org/investigations/par ... ers/about/
A Guardian live blog with running commentary, further links in their article
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Post by AndyinPA » Sun Nov 05, 2017 9:56 pm

Dan1100 wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:09 pm
Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:03 pm
Why all the Russian entanglements? There’s a shitload of money to be stolen there. The oligarchs are former communist party officials who know how to steal from the people. And they need westerners to help them escape when the next revolution comes. As it will.
I remember when the Soviet Union broke apart, that American Wall Street types went over there to give them advice how to set up their financial system. I think it was their wet dream, to set up a financial system with no Fed or SEC to tell them what to do. And that's what they did and you can see the result they got.
Yep, that's exactly the way it went down.



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European Parliament Report Accuses Wilbur Ross of Insider Trading
Lawmakers have been scrutinizing his 2014 sale of shares in the Bank of Ireland.
Senate Democrats recently called for an investigation into Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross’ finances, following reports that he vastly overvalued his wealth and failed to disclose his holdings in a Russian shipping company partly owned by Vladimir Putin’s son-in-law. Now the embattled mogul, whose long relationship with Donald Trump has been tested by the disclosures, is facing scrutiny by European lawmakers over allegations that he engaged in insider trading related to his 2014 sale of shares in the Bank of Ireland.

Earlier this year, Luke Ming Flanagan, an Irish politician and member of the European Parliament, the European Union’s governing body, commissioned a report on the 2008 eurozone banking crisis. The final version of this report, written by two Irish financial analysts, was presented in Brussels last week to a group of 52 European Parliament members affiliated with left-leaning parties. And it included a section covering Ross’ investment in the Bank of Ireland, in which he was a major shareholder and a member of the board of directors. The report alleges that when Ross sold off his holdings in the bank for a massive profit in 2014, he possessed inside information that the bank was relying on deceptive accounting practices to mask its losses and embellish its financial position.

Ross’ involvement with the Bank of Ireland began in July 2011, when his hedge fund, WL Ross & Co., joined several institutional investors to purchase a 34.9 percent stake in the struggling financial firm for 1.12 billion euros ($1.6 billion). At the time, the deal “led to much head-scratching,” according to the Irish Examiner. That’s because Ross and the other investors obtained stock in the company at the low price of 10 euro cents a share just months after the bank received a 3.5 billion euro bailout from the Irish Central Bank and a guarantee of up to 10 billion more. (The bank’s shares were trading at about 30 euro cents two months before the sale.) The Irish government’s decision “to sell a large chunk of Bank of Ireland at the bottom of the market” so soon after the government’s cash infusion had stabilized the institution “was on the face of it baffling,” the newspaper reported.

In 2012, Ross joined the bank’s board of directors. Two years later, he began liquidating his stake. In March 2014, he sold a chunk of his holdings at 33 euro cents a share—more than triple what he had paid for the stock. A couple of months later, he sold the remainder of his shares for about 26 euro cents per share. Together, the sales netted him a profit of about 500 million euros ($682 million). The Irish Independent reported at the time that Ross had “pulled off the deal of the century.”
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... r-trading/


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The Case Of Wilbur Ross' Phantom $2 Billion

Dan Alexander , FORBES STAFF
This story appears in the December 12, 2017 issue of Forbes.

Fresh off a tour through Thailand, Laos and China, United States Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross Jr. picked up the phone on a Sunday afternoon in October to discuss something deeply personal: how much money he has. A year earlier, Forbes had listed his net worth at $2.9 billion on The Forbes 400, a number Ross claimed was far too low: He maintained he was closer to $3.7 billion. Now, after examining the financial-disclosure forms he filed after his nomination to President Donald Trump's Cabinet, which showed less than $700 million in assets, Forbes was intent on removing him entirely.

Ross protested, citing trusts for his family that he said he did not have to disclose in federal filings. "You're apparently not counting those, which are more than $2 billion," he said. When asked for documentation, the 79-year-old demurred, citing "privacy issues." Told that Forbes nonetheless planned to remove him from the list for the first time in 13 years, he responded: "As long as you explain that the reason is that assets were put into trust, I'm fine with that." And when did he make the transfer that allowed him to not disclose over $2 billion? "Between the election and the nomination."

So began the mystery of Wilbur Ross' missing $2 billion. And after one month of digging, Forbes is confident it has found the answer: That money never existed. It seems clear that Ross lied to us, the latest in an apparent sequence of fibs, exaggerations, omissions, fabrications and whoppers that have been going on with Forbes since 2004. In addition to just padding his ego, Ross' machinations helped bolster his standing in a way that translated into business opportunities. And based on our interviews with ten former employees at Ross' private equity firm, WL Ross & Co., who all confirmed parts of the same story line, his penchant for misleading extended to colleagues and investors, resulting in millions of dollars in fines, tens of millions refunded to backers and numerous lawsuits. Additionally, according to six U.S. senators, Ross failed to initially mention 19 suits in response to a questionnaire during his confirmation process.


Nearly a week before this article went to press, both Ross and his team at the Commerce Department were sent a detailed list of questions. "Secretary Ross has filed all required disclosures in accordance with the law and in consultation with both legal counsel and ethics officials at the Department of Commerce and Office of Government Ethics. As we have said before, any misunderstanding from your previous conversation with Secretary Ross is unfortunate." They declined to provide further answers on the record.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexand ... 195d007515



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Hubby subscribed to Forbes for several years. I noticed a pattern of Forbes front cover "models" later being indicted for a beaucoup of federal financial crimes- so much that I advised "my boys" - hubby, sons, sons' friends ,ad infinitum, that I NEVER wanted to see them on the cover of Forbes.


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The decline and fall of Wilbur Ross

President Donald Trump has put Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross out to pasture.
Wilbur has lost his step. Actually, he’s probably lost a lot of steps.
— President Trump, shaking his head in resignation, to one of our sources
One problem: Ross’s efforts to wheel and deal with the Chinese have left the president unimpressed. Another problem: He keeps falling asleep in meetings.

Early in Trump’s presidency, Ross was his go-to negotiator, helming the administration’s trade talks with the Chinese. After a few months, though, Trump concluded he was doing a terrible job.

In a series of Oval Office meetings about six months into his presidency, Trump eviscerated Ross, telling him he’d screwed up, and badly.

“These trade deals, they’re terrible,” Trump said, according to a source in the room for one of the meetings. “Your understanding of trade is terrible. Your deals are no good. No good.”

Trump told Ross he didn’t trust him to negotiate anymore. Ross had tried in the early months of the administration, before Robert Lighthizer was confirmed as the U.S. Trade Representative, to take the lead on several crucial trade conversations. Once Lighthizer arrived there was a tussle for control over several issues. But after Ross botched — in Trump's eyes — his dealings with China, he decided Lighthizer would be the lead negotiator on all trade issues.

During this period, Trump humiliated Ross in front of his colleagues, per three sources, and questioned his intelligence and competence.

The Financial Times reported in August that Trump rejected a China steel deal that Ross thought he’d closed. But nobody has reported the extent of Trump’s castration of Ross. Trump has effectively taken his Commerce Secretary — who he once called a “killer” — off the playing field.

One example: Ross made a deal to open the U.S. market to cooked Chinese chicken, in exchange for the Chinese opening their market to American beef. Ross told reporters it was a “herculean accomplishment,” and “more than has been done in the whole history of U.S.-China relations on trade,” per the AP.

But Trump wasn’t impressed with this deal — at all — and told our sources he found Ross’s boasting to be laughable and ridiculous.
Ross’s propensity to doze off in meetings — which senior Capitol Hill aides have noticed — hasn’t helped.


https://www.axios.com/the-decline-and-f ... 1ed2a.html



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Forbes is out with a great story on the slimy Wilbur Ross (read it and you will understand why Trump chose him):
A multimillion-dollar lawsuit has been quietly making its way through the New York State court system over the last three years, pitting a private equity manager named David Storper against his former boss: Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross. The pair worked side by side for more than a decade, eventually at the firm, WL Ross & Co.—where, Storper later alleged, Ross stole his interests in a private equity fund, transferred them to himself, then tried to cover it up with bogus paperwork. Two weeks ago, just before the start of a trial with $4 million on the line, Ross and Storper agreed to a confidential settlement, whose existence has never been reported and whose terms remain secret.

It is difficult to imagine the possibility that a man like Ross, who Forbes estimates is worth some $700 million, might steal a few million from one of his business partners. Unless you have heard enough stories about Ross. Two former WL Ross colleagues remember the commerce secretary taking handfuls of Sweet’N Low packets from a nearby restaurant, so he didn’t have to go out and buy some for himself. One says workers at his house in the Hamptons used to call the office, claiming Ross had not paid them for their work. Another two people said Ross once pledged $1 million to a charity, then never paid. A commerce official called the tales “petty nonsense,” and added that Ross does not put sweetener in his coffee. [Did they say he put it in his coffee? No! What about his iced tea?]

There are bigger allegations. Over several months, in speaking with 21 people who know Ross, Forbes uncovered a pattern: Many of those who worked directly with him claim that Ross wrongly siphoned or outright stole a few million here and a few million there, huge amounts for most but not necessarily for the commerce secretary. At least if you consider them individually. But all told, these allegations—which sparked lawsuits, reimbursements and an SEC fine—come to more than $120 million. If even half of the accusations are legitimate, the current United States secretary of commerce could rank among the biggest grifters in American history.
Much more at the link: https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexand ... -grifting/


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TexasFilly wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:57 am
Forbes is out with a great story on the slimy Wilbur Ross (read it and you will understand why Trump chose him):

:snippity:

Much more at the link: https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexand ... -grifting/
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Post by Orlylicious » Sat Dec 22, 2018 1:10 am

Sorry but I still think of Mr. Ed every time I see Wilbur's name. Sleezy to the end. I had a great laugh over this story, hope you find it funny too!

"Gee, it sounded great on paper to have Wilbur there, he loves the young people." -- Trump Admin source (made up but posible)
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The Trump administration sent its 81-year-old commerce secretary to address a conservative youth summit. It was a disaster.
2:37 PM - 21 Dec 2018


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81-Year-Old Commerce Secretary Addresses Conservative Youth Summit
Wilbur Ross told the unenthusiastic crowd that lazy young people need to “get off the couch.”

Stephanie Mencimer December 21, 2018 12:54 PM

Thousands of high school- and college-age conservatives have assembled this week in Palm Beach, Florida, for the Turning Point USA student action summit to address the future of the conservative movement. One representative of the Trump administration came to address them and give voice to the millennial appeal of the right: 81-year-old Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross.

Turning Point USA has close ties to the Trump administration, and its leadership training event over the summer in DC featured a number of White House officials and Cabinet members, including then–Attorney General Jeff Sessions, who declared that colleges were creating a “generation of sanctimonious, sensitive, supercilious snowflakes.”

The Florida student action summit, however, seems to be suffering from the mass exodus from the administration that’s taken place after the midterm elections in November. Ross is the only member of the administration on the schedule. The commerce secretary is reportedly on the outs with President Donald Trump because, among other things, he keeps falling asleep during meetings. :lol:

On Friday, following energetic, youthful conservative activists like undercover provocateur James O’Keefe and millennial blogger Allie Stuckey, the octogenarian businessman gave perhaps the dullest speech of the conference. He read haltingly from prepared notes, in a presentation that had kids streaming to the exits like generals fleeing the White House. If more of them had stuck around, though, they might not have been so thrilled with what he had to say.

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Wilbur Ross addresses a mostly empty ballroom at the Turning Point USA student summit.

Ross complained that more than 1 million jobs are going unfilled today because lazy young people just aren’t interested in going to work, due to lack of motivation and perhaps an infatuation with godless socialism. He implored the attendees, “If people sitting on the sidelines don’t realize that good jobs are readily available with high pay, please do the entire country a great service and encourage them to get off the couch and into the workforce. If we could move a lot of these nonworking Americans onto payrolls, they would be far better off, and people would have their faith in capitalism restored.”

After running through some mind-numbing data points about the future of asteroid mining and other space business,Ross wrapped up his speech by telling the students in attendance, “Please help to get your contemporaries into the workforce…God bless America.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/20 ... th-summit/

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Orlylicious wrote:
Sat Dec 22, 2018 1:10 am
Sorry but I still think of Mr. Ed every time I see Wilbur's name. Sleezy to the end. I had a great laugh over this story, hope you find it funny too!

"Gee, it sounded great on paper to have Wilbur there, he loves the young people." -- Trump Admin source (made up but posible)
Mother Jones Verified account @MotherJones
The Trump administration sent its 81-year-old commerce secretary to address a conservative youth summit. It was a disaster.
2:37 PM - 21 Dec 2018
https:// twitter.com/MotherJones/status/1076184948967723014

Where are the pix with Candace Owens and Charlie Kirk? :lol:
:snippity:
Ross complained that more than 1 million jobs are going unfilled today because lazy young people just aren’t interested in going to work, due to lack of motivation and perhaps an infatuation with godless socialism. He implored the attendees, “If people sitting on the sidelines don’t realize that good jobs are readily available with high pay, please do the entire country a great service and encourage them to get off the couch and into the workforce. If we could move a lot of these nonworking Americans onto payrolls, they would be far better off, and people would have their faith in capitalism restored.”

:snippity:
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/20 ... th-summit/

God Bless! :towel:
Just maybe those sitting at the sidelines don't qualify for those high paying jobs.

Just perhaps Betsy Devoss may be the one in charge to answer Wilbur Ross' concerns right there in the administration.



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RTH10260 wrote:
Sat Dec 22, 2018 7:52 am
Just maybe those sitting at the sidelines don't qualify for those high paying jobs.

Just perhaps Betsy Devoss may be the one in charge to answer Wilbur Ross' concerns right there in the administration.
If Betsy DeVoss weren't born with a silver spoon in her mouth she might understand this. You can go through life dumb and stupid if you are born into money. Note our 45th president. But you can't get a high paying job while dumb and stupid. Sitting on or off the fence.


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Post by Volkonski » Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:24 pm

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BREAKING: @OfficeGovEthics decline to certify @SecretaryRoss's financial disclosure report. They also included a note saying they wouldn't certify because he said he sold his BankUnited stock in 2017.

The problem? He didn't.
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