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Post by p0rtia » Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:53 pm

I've scattered a few posts lately about my deplorable three-term Congresswoman, Elise Stefanik. NY 21 is rural upstate New York (the eastern and northern upstate), solid old-school Republican, though when my county (Washington) used to be NY 20, we elected Kirsten Gillibrand to Congress a couple of times before she moved on to the Senate. We also went for Obama twice. So.

Stefanik is thus considered a moderate, and as such GOP gladly allows her to vote against the tide whenever she needs to. The District is insignificant, definitely small potatoes in terms of political clout. The electorate is into local politics, where you have to be a Republican to do anything and is, historically, not at all informed about what is going on nationally, or about the import of their Rep. They think all those immigrants are a bad thing, and they don't want to lose their hunting rifles. Of course I find it fascinating.

In 2018, Stefanik beat Cobb, her opponent, by the biggest margin (10 pts) of any NY House member (she likes to boast). The Dem primary was noteworthy because Dylan Ratigan entered and was soundly trounced (and boy did he look silly at all the county fair style fund raisers).

Since then, the district has been made aware of what is going on nationally, thanks to the OSG. They are much less sanguine than they used to be. Cobb, a go-get-em county legislator, is contesting the election again (though she'll have to win the nomination, of course).

Anyway. Since the halcyon days of attending the Milk Queen crowning at the Washington County Fair in 2016, Stefanik has closed herself off from the big bad, increasingly hostile world, and is notorious for her lack of events open to the public. As in, zero. Any contact she has with human beings is strictly regulated. Her social media has become increasingly pro-45, though she sometimes finds his tweets "ill-advised."

As a member of the Intel Committee, she learned a lot from from Nunez, and is apparently now working on a bill to force the FBI to inform any congressperson if they are being investigated--and is counterwise against the idea the congresspeople should have to inform the FBI if they are contacted by foreign agents with offers to help out. So there's that.

She is staunchly pro NRA. So today I've been splatting all over her twitter and facebook pages, suggesting that her party is complicit in the unfettered distribution of weapons intended for mass murder. (She/her SM intern is not around, but I've heard she's moved over to Instagram, where I shall shortly follow.)

One of the latest slams against her is the percentage of money she raises from her district, which is, wait for it: 6.34 percent.

Down from the last election cyle's high of...13.52 percent.

That says something to me about her popularity. In a district where people are uniformed and just pull the R lever. So I don't expect her to lose. Which says something about voters.

Speaking of which, I'm an election inspector in the district. We're going digital check-in this year, and I've been picked for training on the tablet cause I'm a youngster (snort) and computer savvy. No more paper poll book. Voting machines are hybrid (Imagecast): marked ballots scanned for digital tally.

Anyway, thought I'd start a thread to post my musings. I think I'm the only one here in the district.


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Post by p0rtia » Sun Aug 04, 2019 3:19 pm

Spot the Congresswoman amidst the Dairy Princesses (July 2019)
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This is why she wins in NY21:

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Post by Somerset » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:30 pm

In looking at a map of the district, I see there's a "notch" along the bottom that excludes Saratoga, Ballston Spa and Malta. This would include GloFo Fab 8. Do you know why it's been drawn out of your district?



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Post by p0rtia » Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:16 pm

Somerset wrote:
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In looking at a map of the district, I see there's a "notch" along the bottom that excludes Saratoga, Ballston Spa and Malta. This would include GloFo Fab 8. Do you know why it's been drawn out of your district?
The cutout is to exclude Saratoga Springs (Ballston Spa and Malta are incidental) from NY 21. Saratoga springs is culturally and economically quite different than the surrounding rural areas that typify the current NY21. Much more in common with the Albany, Schenectady, Troy area, which is the current NY20. Saratoga Springs has the race track, Performing Arts Center, and big bucks.

NY20 is also much more Democratic than NY21. But afaik it's not considered a gerrymander--not least because Dems drew the map.

My area used to be known as NY20, a much smaller district. But the districts were redrawn in NY and a couple were eliminated in what, 2016? The lightly populated northern part of the state was added to my area, making it much, much more Republican.


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Post by p0rtia » Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:05 pm

My elusive congresswoman sits on the House Intel Committee. As usual they have her asking empty process questions, getting no answers, and looking serious. Here is her questioning of Maguire on Sept 26. In case you blinked and missed it:
FULL TRANSCRIPT OF STEFANIK-MCGUIRE EXCHANGE
Stefanik: Thank you Mr. McGuire, thank you for being here. We appreciate your life of public service. My question relates to prior to the transmission on August 26 from the IG (Inspector General) to the DNI, (Director of National Intelligence) were there any conversations that you had with the IG prior to August 26 related to this matter?
McGuire: Congresswoman, there’s been a lot that’s happened in the last several weeks. As far as the timeline is concerned, I’d like to take that and get back to you and give you a full chronology, if I may, on the full timeline of events.
Stefanik: That will be very helpful to this committee in terms of whether there were any preliminary conversations, what was discussed and if there was any action taken as a result of those conversations. I want to turn to the complaint itself, which is made public for the American public to read - and let me preface this by saying I greatly appreciate your statement that you believe the whistle blower is acting in good faith. I think that’s very important for the American people to hear.
But on page one - and I’m not going to improvise for parody purposes like the chairman of this committee did, I’m going to quote it directly - on page one the complaint reads quote I was not a direct witness to most of the events described. This seems like a very important line to look into. I think the American public will have questions, in particular, about that line.
So my question to you is, for the record, did the IG fully investigate the allegations into this complaint? At this time, has the IG fully investigated the allegations into this complaint?
McGuire: As I said earlier congresswoman, I believe that the intelligence community inspector general did a thorough investigation with the 14 day time frame that he had. And under that time frame to the best of his ability, he made the determination that it was both credible and urgent. I have no reason to doubt Michael Atkinson did anything but his job.
Stefanik: Sure. So when you talk about a full investigation, were the veracity of the allegations in the complaint looked into? There were many references to White House officials. Do you know if the IG spoke with those White House officials, do you know if he investigated, again, the truthfulness of these allegations? Or was it a preliminary investigation?
McGuire: Congresswoman, I’d have to defer to the IG to respond to you on that, but although I do not know the identity of the whistle blower, I do know that Michael Atkinson had in fact discussed this with the whistle blower and found his complaint to be credible. As far as who else he spoke with, I am unaware of what went on in Michael Atkinson’s investigation in this matter.
Stefanik: So as of today, the only individual we know the IG spoke with is the complainant, is the author, the whistle blower?
McGuire: Congresswoman, what I’m saying is I’m unaware of who else Michael Atkinson may have spoken to. I’m just not familiar with his investigative process and everybody that he spoke to in this regard.
Stefanik: Thank you for the answer on the record. Again, for the American public, they’re gonna have many questions as they read this complaint today, and because on page one it says no direct knowledge I think it’s very important that we conduct, that we have questions answered for individuals who do have direct knowledge. And with that I yield back.
Walking a fine line for her technically red but nonetheless quite progressive district, you might say? Well, yes, in public. This is what she sent to her list of R donors:
In an email sent to potential donors on Wednesday, Stefanik asked for donations to help her "stand up for President Trump and fight against these partisan attacks."

Stefanik argued in the dispatch that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a Democrat, began the impeachment inquiry "without bothering to wait for the phone call transcripts between President Trump and the Ukrainian President."

She added: "Congress’s role of oversight should be based on facts and real evidence, not partisan games and unconfirmed, secondhand accusations."
https://www.northcountrypublicradio.org ... r-campaign

I love it where she thinks getting actual transcripts might have made Pelosi pull back. The woman (Stefanik) is a walking logical fallacy.


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Post by p0rtia » Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:44 pm

It boggles the mind. On the day of Vindman's testimony in front of the Intel Committee on which she sits:



"Adam Schiff continues to abuse his position of power in the closed, unprecedented, and unfair impeachment depositions and interviews. Today Speaker Pelosi offered a resolution that further empowers Schiff to continue his regime of secrecy from the American public."


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Post by p0rtia » Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:43 pm

JHC. My despicable congresswoman (who sits on the Intel Committee) has asked her Twitter followers to suggest questions for tomorrow's hearing. Just. Insane.

Schiff’s #RegimeofSecrecy emerges from the basement bunker tomorrow for the first time in two months. Millions of Americans will finally have the opportunity to see and hear from witnesses. My constituents shared many ideas for questions with me. Reply w/ your suggested ?s"

Responses range from scathing to R's applauding her for standing up for the rule of law and fighting with D's.


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Post by Addie » Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:37 pm

H/T Portia's analysis :thumbs:
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I'm really hoping the DCCC give some organization help to Tedra. Whoever has been running her campaign clearly hasn't quit his/her day job. My main concern is that Tedra does not appear to stand for anything other than not being GOP. She needs a platform, however modest. Someone is afraid of ruffling a single feather from a sitting duck.

#NY21 is all rural all the time. Saratoga Springs, not exactly the Big City, was cut out of the district, supposedly because it shares more with the suburban areas around Albany. The Republicans in the district are old-fashioned, small government Republicans who still think Democrats are the big spenders. They are liberal on immigration, LGBT rights, and really don't like self-promoters. The blow-back against Stefanik yesterday was extraordinary.

Tedra is okay but (I hate to say "but") very much a local figure. Which is to say that she has more experience in actual life than Stefanik has. She ran for the Dem nomination in 2016 and beat out a competitive field, lost handily, and immediately announced she would run in 2018. She hasn't really gotten started yet. (For comparison, Stefanik never lived in the district till she bought property about ten miles from me last year; she got in with the R's at Harvard and latched on to Paul Ryan. She's never not had a gov't job.)

Well, that has obviously changed. So Tedra's got to take advantage now. Her coffers got a big boost yesterday, so that's good. Her name recognition soared alongside Stefanik's (in a much more positive way). But she's got to have a strategy and she's got to get off the defensive molehill she's been standing on.

She doesn't have to go all Bernie (though Bernie won the Dem primary here in 2016), but to be afraid to say she sees grave impeachment concerns, or that she favors background checks, or that she condemns environmental destruction is not going out on even a twig around here. The district went for Obama twice, I believe.

I hope she can do it, but she needs specialized help from the experienced big kids.

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Post by Kendra » Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:55 pm

Ugh.


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Post by p0rtia » Sat Nov 16, 2019 1:00 pm

Watching Stefanik go from middle-of-the-roader to full-on lying wing-nut over a three week period is educational.

She will still proably bin reelection, because people around here just don't keep up with the details. Also, they are not the type to think this level of ethical depravity is possible.

On the other hand: Forgot to mention that I was talking to my most excellent neighbor last night who said he'd been listening to the impeachment hearing all day. Shook his head and said, "They're all crooks." He's a registered Republican (know this because I'm a poll worker). Was proud of him.


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Post by Orlylicious » Sat Nov 16, 2019 5:02 pm

:lol: Elise is not handling this well. Might want to name the candidates in the title of the topic. This is going to be a hot topic!


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Mentioned the topic to Adam...





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Post by NMgirl » Sat Nov 16, 2019 5:25 pm

Among so many other failings, Ms. Stefanik doesn’t know how to spell.

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Post by pipistrelle » Sat Nov 16, 2019 5:32 pm

NMgirl wrote:
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Among so many other failings, Ms. Stefanik doesn’t know how to spell.
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Yeah, that bugged me. She’s probably a little overwhelmed her stunts didn’t make her a patriotic hero, and they’re filling the coffers of Cobb.

Almost like she’s a snowflake.



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Post by Kendra » Sat Nov 16, 2019 5:42 pm

I do hope she gets invited to appear on one of the Sunday talk shows. Might she lose her temper easily with hard questions?



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Post by p0rtia » Sat Nov 16, 2019 6:03 pm

Stefanik has a second, personal, twitter account. This is the one where she posts herself (the other @RepStefanik, is handled by her SM person).

This is what it's like in Elise's life right now. Check out the responses for a sample. There are hundreds of comments on Twitter and FB and they are all 95 percent on fire. #NY21 is not a fan of the mean-girl, self-victimizing, grandstanding liar.


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Post by Orlylicious » Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:54 pm

Wow, over $650K, maybe we should run for office :P
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Post by PaulG » Sat Nov 16, 2019 9:24 pm

I just sent money to Tedra, but she's got a long road ahead of her. Running for office is a grueling horrible task and she has got to do it for a year. Tefra just got a lot of money to make Stefanik have to work for reelection too. Now it's up to Tefra. I wish her luck!



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Post by fierceredpanda » Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:30 am

George Conway, a member of the fucking Federalist Society, is now a "leftist." It's going to be so wonderful when Trump is gone and people have to re-calibrate their concept political spectrum to something other than "would this person say that water is not wet and the Pope is not Catholic if Donald Trump had taken those positions?"

Stefanik is rapidly moving into contention with Jordan, Gohmert, Gaetz, and Gosar for the title of Most Irritating Member of the House of Represenatives. Clearly she is already running away with this term's Michelle Bachmann award for Worst GOP Congresswoman. (These awards really should be a thing.)


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Post by Orlylicious » Sun Nov 17, 2019 2:45 pm

:lol:




She's over $850K now, amazing.

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Post by p0rtia » Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:08 pm

fierceredpanda wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:30 am
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Stefanik is rapidly moving into contention with Jordan, Gohmert, Gaetz, and Gosar for the title of Most Irritating Member of the House of Represenatives. Clearly she is already running away with this term's Michelle Bachmann award for Worst GOP Congresswoman. (These awards really should be a thing.)
She shifted to the right last spring--it was obvious all across her social media. My conclusions from watching her since the Impeachment hears began (in the SCIF) are that she has been put forward by leadership to act like a fool for them.

I'm reading about how they put her forward to clash with Schiff so that they could paint him as a misogynist when he reacted to her shit, but I don't agree. I think she made her decision to move right months ago, because her seat is so safe and this is her chance to make a grab for money and power. So she said "yes" when they asked her to pair with Jordan to form a Republican Cerberus. The fact that she was female was a lucky bonus this week (they no doubt thought).

I doubt she has considered a single downside of what she's doing. Watching the corruption of what I thought was a smart woman, and her reveal as a Republican mean girl, is an eye-popper.


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Post by TexasFilly » Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:17 pm

Looks like Anonymous George Conway baited this woman to great effect.


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