Election Day Nov 3, 2020
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The Trump crew will whine and grift, but they will not pay and Wisconsin will not do a recount.
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Re: Election Day Nov 3, 2020
And then they will whine and grift some more and complain loudly that WI is denying them the recount which would show that Trump really won.Grumpy Old Guy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:22 pm The Trump crew will whine and grift, but they will not pay and Wisconsin will not do a recount.
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WaPo - Jennifer Rubin: We need an investigation into Lindsey Graham’s intervention in Georgia ...
Graham denied to The Post that he encouraged Raffensperger to discard ballots, saying he was only investigating signature-matching rules. That raises the question why he would need to know this information and decide directly to contact Raffensperger, who is under death threats and has been subject to baseless accusations of misconduct by fellow Republicans.
Federal and/or state law enforcement should get to the bottom of this, requiring both parties to the conversation, and any witnesses, to preserve evidence. Stephen I. Vladeck, an election law guru and University of Texas law professor, tells me, “At least as relayed in the Post story, Sen. Graham appears to have been attempting to convince Secretary Raffensperger to alter the valid results of Georgia’s election — in a manner that may run afoul of numerous provisions of Georgia election law.” He adds, “At the very least, it’s a serious matter that might warrant further investigation — and that is grossly unbecoming of any United States senator, let alone the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee.” ...
Federal law (18 U.S.C. Section 242) provides: “Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.” In addition, 18 U.S.C. 1038(c) states that it is a crime to conspire to violate voting rights. ...
The alleged behavior is serious, unseemly and raises legitimate questions. Whether or not any of these or other laws were broken must be investigated, but Graham’s actions have called into question his willingness to uphold the sanctity of elections.
“For the chairman of the Senate committee charged with oversight of our legal system to have reportedly suggested that an election official toss out large numbers of legal ballots from American voters is appalling,” says Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington Executive Director Noah Bookbinder. “Not only is it wrong for Sen. Graham to apparently contemplate illegal behavior, but his suggestion undermines the integrity of our elections and the faith of the American people in our democracy.” He alleges, “Under the guise of rooting out election fraud, it looks like Graham is suggesting committing it. That is unacceptable, and Sen. Graham should step down from his chairmanship immediately.”
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/georgi ... 000-votes/

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger on Tuesday said that President Donald Trump had himself to blame for losing the state’s electoral votes in the 2020 election.
Raffensperger told WSB’s Justin Gray that 24,000 Republicans who voted by absentee ballot in the primary did not cast votes in the general election.
The secretary of state linked the lack of participation to Trump’s effort to demonize mail-in voting.

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Well, if you are so sure you are going to win Donnie, then write the damned check. When you are declared the winner in Wisconsin, they will gladly refund the $7.9 million. At least that is what I recall reading. If the election is changed then the state picks up the tab.
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Grumpy Old Guy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:22 pm The Trump crew will whine and grift, but they will not pay and Wisconsin will not do a recount.

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What happens now?
Niraj Warikoo
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ALERT: Wayne County Board of Canvassers deadlocked 2-2 on certifying election results, split along party lines.
Dem member blasts Republicans for "allowing politics" to block certifcation: "There is no reason under the sun for us not to certify this election...irresponsible"
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Board member Jonathan Kinloch, a Democrat on the 4-member board, blasts the 2 Republicans for blocking the certification of election results in Michigan's largest county, Wayne, calling it "reckless & irresponsible."
Politics made a "presence" here today.

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The Hill
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Georgia secretary of state says voting machine audit is complete, no sign of foul play http://hill.cm/PKtmIWh
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Georgia secretary of state says voting machine audit is complete, no sign of foul play http://hill.cm/PKtmIWh

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Nancy Kaffer
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The Republican chair of the board, Monica Palmer, literally just said she would be open to certifying the vote in "communities other than Detroit"
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The Wayne County Board of Canvassers just deadlocked on certifying the vote on party lines. This is unprecedented in my 20 years covering government here.
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The Republican chair of the board, Monica Palmer, literally just said she would be open to certifying the vote in "communities other than Detroit"
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Nancy Kaffer
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The Wayne County Board of Canvassers just deadlocked on certifying the vote on party lines. This is unprecedented in my 20 years covering government here.

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Monica Palmer refuses to certify a 300,000 + majority for Joe Biden.
May she soon find herself in Dante’s Eighth Circle of Hell.
May she soon find herself in Dante’s Eighth Circle of Hell.
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Or Wayne County lock up.SlimSloSlider wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:56 pm Monica Palmer refuses to certify a 300,000 + majority for Joe Biden.
May she soon find herself in Dante’s Eighth Circle of Hell.
Same thing.
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I read on Tweeter (so it must be true), that it is 2 R's and 2 D's just like the County Board.

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Yes, the state board will do their job, then send Wayne County a bill.
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Trump needs to be smashed into some kind of inedible orange pâté.
Trump needs to be smashed into some kind of inedible orange pâté.
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KHOU 11 News Houston
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Wayne County, Mich., board reverses course, certifies election hours after deadlock
trying to disenfranchise Detroit voters.
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Wayne County, Mich., board reverses course, certifies election hours after deadlock
trying to disenfranchise Detroit voters.

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The Wayne County Board of Canvassers decision to actually certify the election came after about 3 hours of voters loudly calling out the board for trying to disenfranchise Detroit voters.
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The Wayne County Board of Canvassers decision to actually certify the election came after about 3 hours of voters loudly calling out the board for trying to disenfranchise Detroit voters.

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Kathy Gray
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Another vote, this time unanimous, from Wayne County Board of Canvassers to certify the results, but also direct @JocelynBenson to do a comprehensive audit of the out-of-balance precincts.
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Another vote, this time unanimous, from Wayne County Board of Canvassers to certify the results, but also direct @JocelynBenson to do a comprehensive audit of the out-of-balance precincts.

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Helen Kennedy
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It's fun waiting for the penny to drop.
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Well, it’s really quite simple. You just can’t have more votes than people! twitter.com/joshdcaplan/st…
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It's fun waiting for the penny to drop.
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Well, it’s really quite simple. You just can’t have more votes than people! twitter.com/joshdcaplan/st…

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Amy Siskind
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Ethics violation against a GOP member of the Board of Wayne County Canvassers. Hearing tomorrow morning.

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Ethics violation against a GOP member of the Board of Wayne County Canvassers. Hearing tomorrow morning.

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