WITHDRAWN: Michael Bloomberg 2020 (Again)

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neonzx wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:23 pm
tek wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:15 pm
Hm.

unsolicited Bloomberg campaign text to my cellphone.

The first campaign text I've ever gotten on my cellphone.

I don't like this.
Bloomberg's campaign SMS short-code is 80510. Did it come from that or another number?
(I'm on his txt list by choice. --- as well as others. I use the TextNow app so I don't give my true number)
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WaPo - Helaine Olen
Mike Bloomberg isn’t the anti-Trump juggernaut he seems to be

An increasing number of Democrats are thrilling to the candidacy of former New York mayor Mike Bloomberg. He’s rising in the polls, driven by his seemingly nonstop television and Facebook ads. Here’s the Democratic candidate who’s finally willing to give President Trump as good as he gets on Twitter: When Trump called him a “mass of dead energy,” Bloomberg responded that the president was known as “a carnival barking clown” and that many of “the same people” they know in New York are laughing at the president behind his back. Take that!

The attitude seems to be if you can’t beat them, join them. If it takes an elderly billionaire New Yorker to beat another elderly billionaire New Yorker, so be it. At least Bloomberg actually earned his vast $60 billion fortune and appears to want to do some good with it. Bloomberg has spent untold millions on climate-change and gun-control efforts, as well as millions of dollars helping Democrats flip the House in 2018.

But not so fast. Bloomberg’s candidacy is more than a Faustian bargain, as Eric Levitz correctly noted in New York magazine, of making peace with a semi-benign form of plutocratic rule; it’s a bargain that involves giving up advantages the Democrats actually have against Trump for an uncertain gain.

How well Bloomberg will hold up under public scrutiny is unclear. He is notoriously uncharismatic. All too often, his responses under even vaguely tough questioning reek of contempt and condescension — two mistakes that Trump, an expert public performer, never makes. (The president is just belligerent.) Once, after a nasty snowstorm during his tenure as mayor, Bloomberg referred to city residents’ complaints of his administration’s inadequate clean-up as “griping.” (He subsequently apologized.) New York City too expensive? Get over it. It’s a “luxury product.” Little surprise he refused to meet with the New York Times editorial board and seems less than eager to participate in next week’s Democratic debate.
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The Atlantic - (paywall): Bloomberg Flunks the Wokeness Test

Stop-and-frisk was awful. But to disqualify the former New York mayor from the presidency on that basis is to risk something more destructive: a second term for Trump.
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New York Times
Bloomberg’s Billions: How the Candidate Built an Empire of Influence ...

There are, after all, numerous dimensions to Mr. Bloomberg’s persona and record that give Democrats pause. A former Republican who joined the Democratic Party in 2018, Mr. Bloomberg has long mingled support for progressive causes with more conservative positions on law enforcement, business regulation and school choice. He has often given voice to views that liberals find troubling: Over the past week, Mr. Bloomberg’s campaign was on the defensive over past recordings that showed him linking the financial crisis to the end of discriminatory “redlining” practices in mortgage lending, and defending physically aggressive policing tactics as a deterrent against crime.

Yet in a primary campaign defined by Democrats’ hunger to defeat President Trump, Mr. Bloomberg is also offering himself up as a person singularly equipped to do so — a figure of unique standing and resources, with a powerful set of alliances and a fearsome political machine to draw on. His political rise has become a test of the impact one man’s wealth can have when he applies it to the political system with driving sophistication.

In less than three months as a candidate, Mr. Bloomberg has poured more than $400 million, and rapidly counting, into the campaign. But that figure pales in comparison with what he spent in prior years, positioning himself as a national leader with presidential ambitions. ...

A Times examination of Mr. Bloomberg’s philanthropic and political spending in the years leading up to his presidential bid illustrates how he developed a national infrastructure of influence, image-making and unspoken suasion that has helped transform a former Republican mayor of New York City into a plausible contender for the Democratic nomination. If anything, his claim — and his support among anxious moderates — has grown stronger with the ascent of the “democratic socialist” Senator Bernie Sanders in early voting in Iowa and New Hampshire.

Since leaving City Hall at the end of 2013, Mr. Bloomberg has become the single most important political donor to the Democratic Party and its causes. His personal fortune, built on a financial information and news company, is estimated at over $60 billion. It fuels an advocacy network that has directed policy in dozens of states and cities; mobilized movements to take on gun violence and climate change; rewritten election laws and health regulations; and elected scores of politicians to offices as modest as the school board and as lofty as the Senate.
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Apparently Bloomberg is floating Hillary as his VP? At least that's what Fox is reporting...Sunday Morning Futures had Bannon and McCarthy on this morning.

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That started with Drudge. I haven't seen anything supporting it as truth, so far.
Kendra wrote:
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Apparently Bloomberg is floating Hillary as his VP? At least that's what Fox is reporting...
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Addie wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:27 am
That started with Drudge. I haven't seen anything supporting it as truth, so far.
Kendra wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:21 am
Apparently Bloomberg is floating Hillary as his VP? At least that's what Fox is reporting...
Hah. I think that's the source Bannon quoted.

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Kendra wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:21 am
Apparently Bloomberg is floating Hillary as his VP? At least that's what Fox is reporting....
of course they are—associating him w clinton is the best way to make their viewers hate him. if they reported on his habits of profiling people of color & surveiling muslims instead they might turn their viewers into supporters
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Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:44 am
Kendra wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:21 am
Apparently Bloomberg is floating Hillary as his VP? At least that's what Fox is reporting....
of course they are—associating him w clinton is the best way to make their viewers hate him. if they reported on his habits of profiling people of color & surveiling muslims instead they might turn their viewers into supporters
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Yeah, Drudge started the rumor, and Fox quickly ran with it. Now MSM has repeated it. :brickwallsmall: I have little hope for the US.

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Lani wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:30 pm
Yeah, Drudge started the rumor, and Fox quickly ran with it. Now MSM has repeated it. :brickwallsmall: I have little hope for the US.
It sucks. Circular-verification of a rumor as fact. True 'fake news.'
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Unless and until Bloomberg/Clinton come right out and say it's not happening, they shoulder some of the responsibility.

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ny post
Bloomberg adds Capricia Marshall, top Clinton ally, to 2020 campaign

Bloomberg tweeted, “I would not be where I am today without the talented women around me. I’ve depended on their leadership, their advice and their contributions.” Powerful Clinton ally Capricia Marshall is joining the former New York City mayor’s presidential campaign, Page Six can exclusively reveal.

Now Page Six can reveal that Bloomberg has tapped DC-based Marshall – who was President Bill Clinton’s White House social secretary from 1997 to 2001. Under the Obama administration, she served as chief of protocol of the United States — a sensitive diplomatic position bearing the rank of ambassador — from 2009 to 2013.

Prior to that, Marshall was a special assistant to Hillary when she was First Lady in 1993. In 2006, Marshall worked on then-Senator Hillary Clinton’s re-election and then joined her presidential campaign in 2008. In her role as senior advisor, she led surrogate speakers and helped co-ordinate women’s outreach. She also appears throughout the new Hulu docuseries about Hillary.

It was not immediately clear what position Marshall would take on the Bloomberg campaign, which now boasts more than 2,100 staffers. But a Democratic source told Page Six, “Capricia Marshall is one of the very top people in Hillary’s immediate inner circle, she is far more than a campaign person, far more than a political aide, and is a very respected insider in the Obama circle
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Sugar Magnolia wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:57 pm
Unless and until Bloomberg/Clinton come right out and say it's not happening, they shoulder some of the responsibility.
Why? Are they responsible for every lie about them? The massive Russian\Trump shit factory will throw out a gazillion lies and conspiracies. Even contradictory ones. I'm not sure that trying to counterclaim against them about every lie is the best strategy. That's defensive, not offensive.

I'm not sure what the best response is. Do the Dems have anything powerful enough to counter this shitstorm?

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The American Prospect - David Dayen
Michael Bloomberg and the Dangers of ‘Any Blue Will Do’ Politics

The presidential candidate is a mirror image of Trump.


I have been on the record as saying that Michael Bloomberg will never become the president of the United States. The line I wrote in 2016 holds up: “An anti-teachers’-union, anti-gun, pro-nanny state, pro-Wall Street, pro-stop-and- frisk, pro-inequality, pro-immigration, pro-surveillance, pro-Iraq War neoconservative is almost surgically designed to repel practically every American voter on some level.” For that reason alone, the flirtation with making this guy the Democratic nominee should cause serious alarm to anyone who wants to defeat Donald Trump. Plus, Bloomberg has vowed to spend his money until November no matter who is the nominee, instantly undercutting the only real value of his candidacy.

But in the few months since Bloomberg announced, we have all gotten hard lessons in the power of money and advertising, the lack of principle within the professional political class, and the way in which the Trump ascendancy has broken the brains of so many Americans. There’s now a path for a general election campaign between dueling plutocrats, which would make a mockery of our politics and obliterate the Democratic Party as a tribune of the people.

And I’m going to say something controversial. There has been plenty of conjecture over whether a Trump-like figure could take over the Democratic Party. And I would say with Bloomberg that we’re about to find out. The cries of “Bloomberg is not Trump!” will rain down on me now, and, of course, he’s not. But there are a disturbing number of similarities. We have a figure without connections or the same value system as the party he seeks to represent, with racial and sexist skeletons in his closet, and a penchant for subverting democracy and showing contempt toward the rule of law. Democrats who are acting as pundits and thinking that Bloomberg offers the most certain close to the Trump era are playing with a stick of dynamite.

Let’s take these points in turn. Michael Bloomberg won his first term as New York City mayor as a Republican. He was a featured speaker at the Republican National Convention in New York in 2004, endorsing George W. Bush and the war on terrorism. He has supported numerous Republican candidates for office with tens of millions of dollars, including Scott Brown over Elizabeth Warren. He supported the state Republican Party in New York to keep them from attacking him over his party switch to independent while mayor.

Bloomberg opposed union contracts and public spending repeatedly in office, while favoring welfare for the rich to attract them to the city. Today he claims to be a liberal Democrat in favor of gun safety and climate preservation. He opposed minimum wage increases before and supports them now. The pattern is of someone choosing sides and deploying money to win favor, purely for political expediency. There’s no core there—just like Trump.
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ABC News: Bloomberg continues to confront stop and frisk legacy

The former New York City mayor apologized for the practice again Saturday.
Yahoo Finance: How Mike Bloomberg’s new retirement plans stack up vs. other Democrats
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I say, I think that boy Jack had his first good idea ever! :lol:

Bloomberg could purchase Twitter and suspend Donald Trump’s account and there would be no legal process to stop him :thumbs:
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New York Daily News - Josh Greenman: Mayor Mike and the myth of the magic manager: Voters should educate themselves on Bloomberg’s failures
LA Times - Harold Meyerson: Bloomberg is not the candidate to take on Trump. Here’s why
Reuters: U.S. Democratic presidential hopeful Bloomberg unveils plan to rein in Wall Street
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The most disturbing comment I’ve read by Mike is his stuff on the financial crisis. Still would vote for him regardless. Then again I can’t vote so whatever.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/13/poli ... index.html

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New York Times - Jamelle Bouie
The Trumpian Liberalism of Michael Bloomberg

He may be running as the anti-Trump, but when it comes to the politics of racial control, there is a resemblance.


Donald Trump is who he is as a politician because of his unapologetically racial vision of the American nation. Trump’s America is white, and he sees his job as protecting that whiteness from black and brown people who might come to the country or claim greater status within it. That’s what it meant to “make America great again.” And he’s delivered, using the power of the office and the force of the state to attack and stigmatize black and brown people, from outspoken celebrities to ordinary immigrants.

If that’s our lens for understanding Trump — if the heart of his movement and ideology is racial control — then it appears we finally have a Democratic equivalent, a figure who works on the same signal albeit at a different frequency. It’s Michael Bloomberg, the other New York billionaire in American politics, who is currently campaigning for the Democratic presidential nomination. ...

Although he never articulated it in these terms, Bloomberg’s actions as mayor reveal that he was someone who also saw black and brown people as threats to the security and prosperity of his territory, New York. And under his administration, the city became a quasi-authoritarian state for many of its black, brown and Muslim residents.

Bloomberg, as many before me have explored in detail, expanded the New York Police Department’s use of “stop and frisk,” a tactic that empowered police officers to stop, search and interrogate residents on the sole basis of “reasonable suspicion.” Overall, between 2004 and 2012, the NYPD — which Bloomberg once called his “own army” while also weirdly claiming that it was the “seventh biggest army in the world” — stopped 4.4 million New York residents. The vast majority, more than 80 percent, were black and brown people, especially young men and boys. In 2011, according to a contemporaneous report by the New York Civil Liberties Union, police stopped more young black men than the total number living in the city. “By the time I was 15 to 18, I’d say I was stopped, questioned and frisked at least 60 to 70 times,” Tyquan Brehon, a young Brooklyn resident, said in a 2012 interview with The New York Times.
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The Trumpian Liberalism of Michael Bloomberg

Overall, between 2004 and 2012, the NYPD — which Bloomberg once called his “own army” while also weirdly claiming that it was the “seventh biggest army in the world” — stopped 4.4 million New York residents.
Murders in NYC in 2003: 596
Murders in NYC in 2013: 333
44% decrease

National Murders in 2003: 16,503
National Murders in 2013: 14,196
14% decrease

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Salon - Amanda Marcotte: If the Democrats nominate Mike Bloomberg, we're facing four more years of Trump

Don't get suckered, Democrats: Of any current candidate, Bloomberg would be the easiest for Trump to beat
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Larry Sabato had a little fun with IMPOTUS via Borowitz (after Donald gave him lots of publicity the other day)...
Sabato got it all wrong last time, never came close to understanding the Trump Voter. Actually it’s simple, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN and then, KEEP AMERICA GREAT! https://t.co/fnzZATqHXz
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Re: Michael Bloomberg 2020 (Again)

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today in mike bloomberg's "who's dirt on my shoes"
  • farmers
  • teachers
  • students
  • the ACLU
  • trans people
Mike Bloomberg dogged by more past controversial remarks

Bloomberg Publicly Called Trans People 'It' Less Than a Year Ago

in other news, bloomberg news is reporting that mike bloomberg says "it's a two man race!" between mike bloomberg and some other guy

Bloomberg Campaign Says It’s a Two-Man Race for the Nomination
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New York Mag - Eric Levitz: There Is a Case for Bloomberg. It’s Just Bleak As Hell.
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This is the honest case for Michael Bloomberg. It is an argument for Democrats to accept that the best that they can hope for in 2020 is benevolent plutocracy:
write that on the forehead of every pundit in america. but that isn't even the most honest case. the most honest case for bloomberg is that the best democrats can hope for in 2020 is a plutocrat who might be more benevolent. (or who might not be.)
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