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Dumb way to hold a horse. Best to grab the reins under the horse's chin. Holding the halter will get one tangled up if the horse spooks, and injure the person and possibly the horse.

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qbawl wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 1:57 pm
Needs a hat and / or a lot of sunscreen.
Ha! Jimmy Kimmel said, about the morons at the Lake of the Ozarks, that those without masks should not be permitted to wear sunscreen! Funny, but it's true. Guys like Pence don't give a shit about others but will protect themselves.
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p0rtia wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 11:34 am
Just to add what we all know: It's never been drumpH; it's always been McConnell and his gang practicing dereliction of duty.
I thought you might be interested in Jennifer Rubin's latest piece: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... ts-wrapper

(I know, I can't believe I read Jennifer Rubin now, and she's prolific so she sometimes churns out 3 op-eds a day. Trump sure has changed my reading habits.)
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Thanks, TF. It was good to read that.

Speaking of Cuomo, he was on fire today; he's honed his argument for federal relief. There is no counterargument, so McConnel and Scott and Cruz will just grin and get high on the power of saying "no."
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p0rtia wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 11:34 am
Just to add what we all know: It's never been drumpH; it's always been McConnell and his gang practicing dereliction of duty.
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"I've often said there's nothing better for the inside of a man than the outside of a horse." -Pres. Reagan
Sounds kinky. :bag:
Was this from before or after the dementia set in?

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neonzx wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 7:21 pm
"I've often said there's nothing better for the inside of a man than the outside of a horse." -Pres. Reagan
Sounds kinky. :bag:
Was this from before or after the dementia set in?
I never thought of Reagan as a deep thinker. I still don't.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
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I just came across this and I don't even know what to make of it.


This was from 2017? Not that the date makes it any less weird . . .
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Her website bio photo? Nope.
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It’s her mugshot from when she was arrested for violating campaign finance law.

Of course.
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Cinder block is rarely a good look.

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Cohen, Stone, Manafort, the last spox before McEninny. It's almost a requirement to work for trump.
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Only the best get to work for individual-1 :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Trump campaign is creating an alternate reality online about coronavirus

Elyse Samuels and Meg Kelly
May 28, 2020 at 9:00 a.m. GMT+2


The Trump administration’s mishandling of key moments in the novel coronavirus outbreak has been well documented. Early travel restrictions from China and Europe were meant to buy time, but inaction or poor planning squandered much of the benefit. Delays in testing allowed the virus to spread across the country largely undetected. A shortage of personal protective equipment while cases surged overwhelmed hospitals and health-care workers. The president promoted unproven, and sometimes dangerous, medical approaches to fighting the disease, in some cases with potentially deadly consequences. He misrepresented how quickly a vaccine will be available.

But the president and his campaign’s Twitter and Facebook feeds tell a different story. From the announcement of the first confirmed case on American soil, their narratives have illustrated and amplified a successful — if often inaccurate — picture of the response.

The seeming omnipresence of these narratives is by design. The campaign has spent $32.6 million on Facebook ads since January 2019, more than double the Facebook ad spending of presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden. And campaign officials spent the past four years rigorously building a digital infrastructure to connect with voters not only through on social media, but with online polls, email lists and rally registration forms.

In other words, when the 2020 election went online only, the Trump team was ready.



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It gives me no pleasure to take issue with Sterngard, someone I hold in the highest esteem. However, I took a break from Fogbow for the last week because I was so angry at this glib response to my anxieties about the potential for unrest:
Sterngard Friegen wrote:
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FRP - the sky has been falling for you for months.

Trump and his fanatics will raise hell, but it is unlikely 200+ years of democracy can be snuffed out in less than 4 years.

So relax.

And wash your hands.
At the time, I saw fit to show myself out and basically ignore this forum for a while, rather than post in response. However, I think now I'm simply owed a concession that maybe I had a point.

The military and law enforcement just attacked a crowd of peaceful demonstrators last night so that POTUS could stage a goddamn photo op. Bill Barr is activating JTTFs across the country to more or less treat demonstrators like foreign terrorists. The fucking Insurrection Act is getting name-dropped by the President, and the Secretary of Defense is telling state and local leaders to "dominate the battlespace." How's that "200+ years of democracy" holding up now?
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I think 200+ years of democracy are being snuffed out as we watch. I agree with you 100%, FRP.

Yes, that was a personal attack and I won't hesitate to delete such in the future.

And we're going to have to do everything and anything between now and five months from tomorrow, if we want to save our country.
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fierceredpanda wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:36 am
:snippity:

At the time, I saw fit to show myself out and basically ignore this forum for a while, rather than post in response. However, I think now I'm simply owed a concession that maybe I had a point.

The military and law enforcement just attacked a crowd of peaceful demonstrators last night so that POTUS could stage a goddamn photo op. Bill Barr is activating JTTFs across the country to more or less treat demonstrators like foreign terrorists. The fucking Insurrection Act is getting name-dropped by the President, and the Secretary of Defense is telling state and local leaders to "dominate the battlespace." How's that "200+ years of democracy" holding up now?
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I grew up in the Episcopalian church in the suburbs of our nation's capital. I am no longer a Christian, but I remember, and that church is liberal to the bone. I wonder if any Episcopalians will vote for Psychobozo in November. :think:
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p0rtia wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:33 am
fierceredpanda wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:36 am
:snippity:

At the time, I saw fit to show myself out and basically ignore this forum for a while, rather than post in response. However, I think now I'm simply owed a concession that maybe I had a point.

The military and law enforcement just attacked a crowd of peaceful demonstrators last night so that POTUS could stage a goddamn photo op. Bill Barr is activating JTTFs across the country to more or less treat demonstrators like foreign terrorists. The fucking Insurrection Act is getting name-dropped by the President, and the Secretary of Defense is telling state and local leaders to "dominate the battlespace." How's that "200+ years of democracy" holding up now?
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:yeah:
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Foggy wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:59 am
I grew up in the Episcopalian church in the suburbs of our nation's capital. I am no longer a Christian, but I remember, and that church is liberal to the bone. I wonder if any Episcopalians will vote for Psychobozo in November. :think:
I wonder if a local mosque was torched that our Beloved Leader would take a photo-op holding the Koran?

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Atticus Finch wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:15 am
Foggy wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:59 am
I grew up in the Episcopalian church in the suburbs of our nation's capital. I am no longer a Christian, but I remember, and that church is liberal to the bone. I wonder if any Episcopalians will vote for Psychobozo in November. :think:
I wonder if a local mosque was torched that our Beloved Leader would take a photo-op holding the Koran?
No. He would take a photo op holding the bible in order to reinforce the idea that "we" have won - the bad mosque was burned, HOORAY!

He's a sick, sick, sick, sick, man. Using the term "man" lightly and not meaning any offense to real men.
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p0rtia wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:04 am
:yeah:
:yeah: We definitely are watching the Constitution being stepped on, and the GOP enabling it. They have lost all credibility as patriots and lovers of freedom. They are neither. They smile while having their photo taken standing in front of the traitor flag and dog whistle to racists all day long. They have not one word to say while Trump threatens to sic the military on American citizens. It's beyond disgusting. And frightening. Trump is trying to incite civil war.
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https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... ra/612508/
We’ve Now Entered the Final Phase of the Trump Era

The president is stuck in a vicious downward spiral.

We are in the Götterdämmerung now, the final phase of the Trump era. We began with the axis of adults that imperfectly constrained him. We then entered the age of hubris and action during which he systematically rid himself of the adults and was free to follow his whims. The third phase was the reckoning as he began to bump up against the contradictions of his own approach, on China and Iran in particular. Now we have finally arrived at the long-feared crisis and unraveling.

For three chaotic years, Donald Trump muddled through, at least in the eyes of Republicans, buoyed by the strong economy he inherited from his predecessor and powered forward by the long GOP wish list, which included, among many items, judicial appointments, deregulation, and the undoing of the Iran nuclear deal. Virtually every consequential and sympathetic analysis of the Trump administration, though, included a caveat: A serious crisis would upend any Republican progress and test the ill-equipped and vindictive president. Deep down, we all hoped the country would get lucky and slip through these four years without a paradigm-changing incident. But if luck is earned, we had no right to it.

The worst possible crisis arrived in COVID-19, one that tugged at every weakness of the president and the nation. It demanded scientific literacy, discipline, trust in authority, sacrifice, and patience. And then another crisis arrived with the economic depression. And then another, with the brutal murder of George Floyd. Now more than 100,000 people are dead, more than 40 million are unemployed, and violent protests have spread across the country.

Trump is stuck in a vicious downward spiral. He is incapable of undertaking the policies necessary to address any of these three crises, so he grasps for actions that shock the senses—accusing journalists of murder, pulling out of the World Health Organization, trying to prosecute Obama-administration officials. These actions simply make matters worse, but he still doubles down again and again.

Foreign policy is not the most important issue facing the country right now, but a 48-hour period last week highlights the sheer chaos Trump is now fomenting at all levels of government. On Thursday, the Chinese Parliament ratified a new security law for Hong Kong that would effectively end the “one country, two systems” model. The governments of the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada, and Australia released a joint statement condemning the move and promising action. The European Union condemned the law but was unable to agree on any punitive measures. Behind the scenes, U.S. diplomats were organizing an in-person G7 summit for late June at which the leaders would present a unified front on Hong Kong, backing it up with concrete steps—possibly imposing sanctions on China and having some G7 members granting refugee status to Hong Kongers. Trump tweeted that he wanted to gather in person as a sign of a return to normal after the pandemic shutdowns. Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and French President Emmanuel Macron suggested that they would attend. German Chancellor Angela Merkel was more circumspect but said she would participate in the G7 in whatever form it took “to fight for multilateralism.” A G7 agreement was not a done deal, but senior administration officials believed the prospects looked good.

On Thursday night, protests broke out over Floyd’s murder. On Friday, Twitter issued Trump a warning for threatening violence with his tweet stating, “When the looting starts, the shooting starts.” Trump responded by trying to distract. He gave a press conference at 2 p.m. in which he declared that he would terminate relations with the WHO and unilaterally announced a response to China’s actions against Hong Kong. Within hours, Angela Merkel let it be known that she was withdrawing from the summit. Miffed, Trump said the next day that he was postponing the summit and inviting Russia, Australia, India, and South Korea to join.

The postponement destroys any hope that a multilateral organization would condemn China’s actions against Hong Kong. Moreover, Russia is a staunch supporter of China’s position that Hong Kong is a purely internal matter that should be of no concern to the rest of the world. Some observers thought the invitation to more countries was designed to isolate China, but its practical effect was to deliver Xi Jinping a big win.

The damage did not end there. China has more leadership roles in United Nations organizations than the other four permanent members of the U.N. Security Council combined. To their credit, some officials in the Trump administration were attempting to build an international coalition to push back on this influence. They scored a victory earlier this year when they helped deny China the chair of the World Intellectual Property Organization. Trump’s termination of relations with the WHO dealt a death blow to this effort—other countries will not follow Washington’s advice on how U.N. organizations should be run if they believe the U.S. is disengaging. This decision clears the way for China to march forward in its effort to overturn global liberal and democratic norms. It also damages vital U.S. interests with respect to global health.

The inclusion of Russia in the G7 summit, a long-standing goal for Trump, also contradicted the official White House China strategy, released on May 20. Modeled on NSC-68, one of the most important documents of the early Cold War period about the threat from the Soviet Union, this assessment went further than the administration has gone before in unpacking the rationale behind its rivalry with Beijing. Although it does not mention Russia, it does speak about a systems competition between democracy and authoritarianism in which the U.S. needs a global alliance of like-minded democracies. The G7 provides the basis of how to build it, but not if Russia, one of the world’s most dangerous autocracies, is included as a member.

The net effect of Trump’s actions over that 48-hour period was to swing a wrecking ball at his own administration’s efforts on China. If this is what he does to his own administration’s policy, which actually had some chance of success if exercised with patience, discipline, and restraint, one can only imagine how concerned he will be that his actions may negatively impact the issues and people he does not care about. This is what to expect for the next five months. The worse the multiple crises get, the more he will lash out, to less and less effect, except to render the U.S. impotent and irrelevant. The American people will pay the price.

There is no way back from the Götterdämmerung in the remainder of the Trump era. The question facing responsible senior administration officials (there are several at the principal and deputy level), Republicans in Congress, and allied governments is not how to persuade Trump to do the right thing, but how to limit the damage so the government can be repaired after he is gone. This may mean not urging Trump to take action on crises even if it is merited; circumventing the president wherever possible; Republican governors declaring their independence from their party leader, trying to craft a bipartisan approach in Congress on foreign-policy issues such as competing with China in international institutions and protecting against Russian interference; and using distractions of their own to divert his attention from truly consequential decisions. Call it fortification—of constitutional democracy and America’s international interests. There are 231 long days with nothing but stormy weather left.
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Trump will leave his newly fenced bunker to beg for money. ;)

Trump campaign, RNC to resume in-person campaigning next week for first time since pandemic hit

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Trump Victory, the joint effort between the Trump campaign and Republican National Committee, will flip the switch next week for its “summer kick off,” sending volunteers and staffers back on the ground for door knocking, in-person training sessions, and voter registrations, multiple sources tell ABC News.

The return of on-the-ground campaigning, which the president’s team had made a core strategy of his re-election effort investing millions in recruiting and training over a million volunteers nation-wide, marks the latest move the president's team has made toward returning to traditional campaigning amid a pandemic that halted efforts months back.

State teams across the country had been informed weeks ago to develop their own plans to return to in-person campaigning, with June being eyed as the return timeframe since early May, sources familiar tell ABC News.


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Trump’s ground operation being reactivated will come as the president himself officially hits the campaign again next week, holding two in-person fundraisers, one on June 11th at a private home in Dallas and another on June 13 at his Bedminster golf club, multiple sources tell ABC News. An RNC official tells ABC News that "each event site will be professionally cleaned and sanitized prior to the event,” and all attendees will have to test negative for COVID-19 on the day of the event, complete a wellness questionnaire, and pass a temperature screening.
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Door knocking? I hope they do get to hear an earful, especially then not wearing a facemask. But then again, they will be among likeminded so let the virus spread very locally...

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