The 2020 campaign

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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:32 pm

I get the same emotional ALERT reaction to Bernie that I get with Trump. I haven't put my finger on it yet. Perhaps it's the off the scales narcissism of both. Perhaps it's Bernie's dissing the Dems while using their resources. I do not trust him.


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Post by Suranis » Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:00 pm

Of course they would accept Bernie Sanders. In a New York fucking minute. Bernie would want to be top of the ticket though, he plays second fiddle to nobody.


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Post by DejaMoo » Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:51 pm

Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:08 pm
Bernie is for single payer, DACA, lower defense budgets, no wall, generous welfare, higher social security payments, etc., etc. He's pretty much a standard IWW socialist. There is no way he will be embraced nby the Republican Party. He's their punching bag, not their mascot.

One thing, though. He still refuses to release his tax returns. That's not going to be enough.
Look at how the Repubs began calling Lamb "basically Republican", and began circulating both true and false claims about his positions on key issues. You don't think they'd do the same for Bernie? And that their any-Republican-over-anyone-else base would choose to believe it and vote for him? Plus a sizeable contingent of the so-called independents?

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Post by Addie » Sun May 13, 2018 6:48 am

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In wide-open 2020 presidential field, Democrats are road-testing messages — and trying to redefine their party

The future of the Democratic Party has been booking late-night TV gigs, waking up for morning drive-time radio and showing up at watering holes in rural counties to try out new material.

Before the start of a 2020 Democratic presidential campaign, at least 25 candidates — mayors, governors, entrepreneurs, members of the House and Senate — have hit the road to workshop their vision, experiment with catchphrases and test policy ideas that could keep President Trump from winning a second term.

Many deny that their actions have anything to do with a coming presidential run, but they unmistakably play off the chords of campaigns past, seeking a way to break through a political maw that has been focused more on the latest actions of the president and the coming midterm elections. ...

At stake in the rehearsals is nothing less than the future of the Democratic Party, which has yet to congeal around a positive vision. Party leaders privately talk about the next two years as a potential pivot point for what it means to be a Democrat, like the tumultuous 1968 Democratic convention or the business-friendly realignment that followed President Bill Clinton’s nomination in 1992.

“The Democratic trajectory right now is more uncertain than it has been since I started in politics in the ’80s,” said Simon Rosenberg, a longtime Democratic strategist at NDN, a think tank. “And I think no one has a leg up.”


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Post by Addie » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:01 am

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Inside Obama’s secret meetings with 2020 contenders

Barack Obama has in recent months met with at least nine prospective 2020 Democratic presidential candidates, including Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Joe Biden and Deval Patrick, pulling them in for one-on-one sessions at his Washington office.

All the meetings were arranged quietly, without even some close advisers to the people involved being told of the conversations, in part because of how much Obama bristles at his private meetings becoming public knowledge. All have been confirmed to POLITICO by multiple people who have been briefed on the secretive sit-downs.

The meetings have been at Obama’s personal office on the third floor of the World Wildlife Fund building in D.C.’s West End neighborhood, and they show how a stream of ambitious, searching politicians are looking for guidance and support from the man who has remained the reluctant leader of the Democratic Party, eager to be involved, though not directly. He's not making any promises of support, though, and is not expected to endorse in the 2020 race until after a nominee has emerged. ...

Meanwhile, people who have been told about other meetings confirmed that they’re going on with some of the lesser known potential 2020 candidates, too. Mitch Landrieu, the former New Orleans mayor being urged to run for president — including by some Obama alumni — sat with the former president in the fall. Jason Kander, the failed 2016 Missouri Senate candidate who’s looking at making an against-all-odds White House run, stopped by in January. And Pete Buttigieg, the mayor of South Bend, Indiana, who’s thinking of a run of his own, was in to see Obama at the end of last year.

Eric Garcetti, the mayor of Los Angeles and one of the early supporters of Obama’s 2008 campaign, hasn’t been to the Washington office, but he got his private meeting when Obama was in town to attend a dinner in May for the American Constitution Center, say several people who were told of that meeting. ...

Among the other speculated 2020 candidates who haven’t been through: Kirsten Gillibrand, Kamala Harris and Terry McAuliffe. Cory Booker was in to see Obama last year, shortly after he returned from his extended post-White House vacation, but hasn’t been back since.


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Post by Addie » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:07 am

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South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg meets with Barack Obama to talk politics

South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg met with former President Barack Obama to reportedly discuss the future of the Democratic party and 2020 presidential campaigns.

CNN reported Monday that Obama has met with several Democrats, offering advice on running in the political era of Donald Trump and discussing how to position the party going forward. ...

“The mayor has met President Obama a number of times, most recently for an informal, private conversation last fall,” Bode wrote in an email. “The mayor has appreciated President Obama’s interest in the South Bend region both during and since his presidency.” ...

CNN’s unnamed source did not describe these meetings as sessions where Obama gave each candidate specific advice about running for president — “This is not about where you put your Sioux City, Iowa, office,” the source told CNN. Instead, the source said, Obama spends “much more time on how to respond to the president, positioning and broader challenges with the party.”

“He has been very clear about the need for the Democratic Party to rebuild and part of that is lifting up the next generation of leaders,” the source told CNN. “So if people want advice or a gut check or just to come in and look at the challenges we face, he is happy to do that.”


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Post by Addie » Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:45 pm

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Jeff Merkley says he's 'exploring the possibility' of a 2020 presidential bid

(CNN) Democratic Sen. Jeff Merkley is "exploring the possibility" of throwing his hat in the ring in the 2020 presidential election, he told The New York Times in a profile published Friday.

Should Sens. Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders become candidates, Merkley told the Times he would "not necessarily" stay out of the race.

In April, the Oregon senator said he was "keeping the options open," but his focus remained on 2018.

Merkley has been in the news as of late for his visit to an immigrant processing center on the southern border and for calling the President's latest executive order "handcuffs for all plan," a nickname referencing his worry that the order will land entire families in prison.


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Post by Addie » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:58 am

WaPo: The top 15 Democratic presidential candidates for 2020, ranked


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Post by Suranis » Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:40 pm

Anyone know what Charlotte has done to deserve this, like sending someone to dig up Cuthulu? And have they the facilities to stock themselves up with enough hookers?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/20/us/p ... lotte.html
The 2020 Republican National Convention will be held in Charlotte, N.C., the party announced on Friday.

The gathering has been a subject of fierce debate in Charlotte. Though the city — North Carolina’s largest, with about 680,000 residents — hosted the Democratic National Convention in 2012, many residents balked at allowing the 2020 conference, which will presumably include the nomination of President Trump for a second term.

Earlier this week, the Charlotte City Council voted by the narrowest of margins, 6-5, to support contracts related to the convention. A Republican National Committee panel then recommended the city, and on Friday, party officials formally chose Charlotte in a unanimous vote.

“Charlotte has so much to offer, and we are excited to bring delegates to a city that has demonstrated its Southern hospitality, showcased its vibrant energy and proven that possibilities are endless,” Ron Kaufman, the committee’s site selection chairman, said in a statement.

Republicans and a handful of Democrats in the city argued that the convention would bring many millions of dollars into the local economy — officials estimate the 2012 convention had a $164 million impact — and offer a crucial opportunity for Charlotte, which has long striven to be seen as a “world-class city,” to stand on the global stage. Hosting a controversial convention, they said, would signal the city’s commitment to free speech at a caustic moment.


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Post by vic » Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:57 pm

Suranis wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:40 pm
Anyone know what Charlotte has done to deserve this, like sending someone to dig up Cuthulu? And have they the facilities to stock themselves up with enough hookers?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/20/us/p ... lotte.html
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Who needs hookers when the GRU can stock hospitality suites?



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Post by Lani » Sat Jul 21, 2018 4:49 am

Almost 4 million more names were purged from the rolls between 2014 and 2016 than between 2006 and 2008.3 This growth in the number of removed voters represented an increase of 33 percent — far outstripping growth in both total registered voters (18 percent) and total popula- tion (6 percent).
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Post by Danraft » Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:14 am

I don't think Bernie's trade policies would be much different than Trumps.

Lain, that's a scary post. My spidey sense is already frazzled as the GOP is too crafty with their sneaky little ways...
I wonder how granular that data is? By county, zip, blocks?


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Post by Danraft » Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:25 am

Found the dataset, butt too large to put onto my iPad. And, my computer is bogged down with another big project right now....


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