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by realist
Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:52 pm
Forum: Sovereign Citizens, Private Militias, and Citizen Grand Juries
Topic: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY
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Re: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY

Judge: Cox has been able to attract supporters that believe that he is innocent and should be let out. He possessed things that he was not allowed to possess.
by realist
Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:51 pm
Forum: Sovereign Citizens, Private Militias, and Citizen Grand Juries
Topic: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY
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Re: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY

Judge: Far as Mr. Cox's mental status. I believe that Dr. Cunningham report was more accurate. However I do not believe that Dr Cunningham assertation that Mr Cox will not recidivate is wrong. The website is indicative of his Mental status.
by realist
Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:48 pm
Forum: Sovereign Citizens, Private Militias, and Citizen Grand Juries
Topic: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY
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Re: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY

Definitely not going free. Judge: As far as the condition of his imprisonment. I feel kinda helpless in the area of BOP. Us judges have little say into how they run their business.I see no reason for him to go back to the high security.Medium security is fine by me and you can give them my recommend...
by realist
Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:46 pm
Forum: Sovereign Citizens, Private Militias, and Citizen Grand Juries
Topic: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY
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Re: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY

Judge: There has been some discussion as to what is a "plan."

It does not have to be that detailed. It seems to me that if there was a plan then that is all it takes. It doesn't matter if it is detailed.
by realist
Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:45 pm
Forum: Sovereign Citizens, Private Militias, and Citizen Grand Juries
Topic: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY
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Re: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY

:thumbs:
Judge: He did say "not yet" but he never did call the whole thing off.

He prepared for war when he left. He was willing to smuggle weapons across an international boundary.
He may have been afraid. But he did not turn away from criminal activity.
by realist
Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:43 pm
Forum: Sovereign Citizens, Private Militias, and Citizen Grand Juries
Topic: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY
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Re: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY

Not looking good for Cox? Judge: Cox and his supporters gathered weapons and talked about killing people. "I is amazing that grown men and women were having these discussions." "This was serious talk." "Things that Mr. Cox wanted to do." "In part it put a lot of people in fear." I never thought that...
by realist
Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:41 pm
Forum: Sovereign Citizens, Private Militias, and Citizen Grand Juries
Topic: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY
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Re: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY

Foggy wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:39 pm
That's gotta be "presentencing" report, yesno? :confused:
I would assume so.
by realist
Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:38 pm
Forum: Sovereign Citizens, Private Militias, and Citizen Grand Juries
Topic: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY
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Re: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY

Judge: The initial conviction stand.

First I want to talk about this 241 business. That was background information in my mind. Not the reason that he was convicted.
by realist
Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:37 pm
Forum: Sovereign Citizens, Private Militias, and Citizen Grand Juries
Topic: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY
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Re: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY

Judge; I understand that my guidelines this morning are way different than my original ruling.
Court is back in session.
Judge: Mr Cox have you read the presenting report.
Cox: yes I have
by realist
Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:18 pm
Forum: Sovereign Citizens, Private Militias, and Citizen Grand Juries
Topic: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY
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Re: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY

ArthurWankspittle wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:44 pm
He’s already served 120 with good behavior.
What? He's done nearer 120 weeks than 120 months.
He's served something like 80 months of his original sentence (January 2013) of 310. I don't think he's got 40 months of "good time."
by realist
Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:04 pm
Forum: Sovereign Citizens, Private Militias, and Citizen Grand Juries
Topic: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY
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Re: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY

Filipovic: Cox has never even pointed a gun at someone. 10 minute break Filipovic: Olsen induced Cox into a 241 plan. That's why it's an imperfect entrapment. McClellan case There is evidence of reluctance and is a mitigating factor for imperative entrapment. Filipovic: Regarding imperfect entrapme...
by realist
Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:48 pm
Forum: Sovereign Citizens, Private Militias, and Citizen Grand Juries
Topic: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY
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Re: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY

Moxy Loxy @MoxyLoxy · 2m Filipovic: How do you fit a conversation with Anderson in 2009 and connect it to KJNP in November 2010? Anderson wasn't even around at this time. Moxy Loxy @MoxyLoxy · 4m Filipovic: we looked hard for another case that was anywhere near like this one. A contingent conspirac...
by realist
Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:37 pm
Forum: Sovereign Citizens, Private Militias, and Citizen Grand Juries
Topic: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY
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Re: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY

Moxy Loxy @MoxyLoxy · 2m Filipovic goes on to compare Cox's case to that of Stones. Other than a handful of people in Fairbanks, his support had gone away. I understand that judges don't like conspiracy law. Defense counsel does not like conspiracy law either. Moxy Loxy @MoxyLoxy · 2m Filipovic: I ...
by realist
Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:28 pm
Forum: Sovereign Citizens, Private Militias, and Citizen Grand Juries
Topic: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY
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Re: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY

Moxy Loxy @MoxyLoxy · 1m Filipovic: Cox did give Anderson the names. But then the interest falls off. There was no plan on what to do with the list. Cox wanted to leave but he did not have a plan for after he left. Moxy Loxy @MoxyLoxy · 2m Filipovic: Cox was trying to leave the country. Cox did boa...
by realist
Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:14 pm
Forum: Sovereign Citizens, Private Militias, and Citizen Grand Juries
Topic: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY
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Re: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY

Filipovic: Fulton tried to say that Cox's plan was to get arrest warrants for judges. That was not happening at this point. Moxy Loxy @MoxyLoxy · 4m Filipovic: Mike Anderson transcript is presented. February 4, 2011 with audio of Bill Fulton. "Look les what is the plan here..I grabbed a knife...wha...
by realist
Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:09 pm
Forum: Sovereign Citizens, Private Militias, and Citizen Grand Juries
Topic: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY
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Re: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY

Filipovic: is comparing the original psych eval to the one done by Dr Cunningham and those by the BOP.
Cox has been able to survive very harsh environment in the CMU with no medication.
by realist
Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:07 pm
Forum: Sovereign Citizens, Private Militias, and Citizen Grand Juries
Topic: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY
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Views: 118373

Re: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY

Moxy Loxy @MoxyLoxy · 1m Filipovic: we believe that Cox should have a criminal history category of 1. We are recommending a 120 months Moxy Loxy @MoxyLoxy · 3m Filipovic: We made a point to have all the information that we presented be collaborated with transcripts and trial evidence. Skrocki calls...
by realist
Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:05 pm
Forum: Sovereign Citizens, Private Militias, and Citizen Grand Juries
Topic: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY
Replies: 1588
Views: 118373

Re: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY

Lots going on here. Read from the bottom up. Moxy Loxy @MoxyLoxy · 1m Filipovic is on the stand Moxy Loxy @MoxyLoxy · 1m Skrocki: Anything less than 235 months is not warranted. Moxy Loxy @MoxyLoxy · 2m Skrocki: He has the ability to collect people and manipulate them to take pity on him. He will no...
by realist
Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:41 pm
Forum: Sovereign Citizens, Private Militias, and Citizen Grand Juries
Topic: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY
Replies: 1588
Views: 118373

Re: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY

:?

Don't know who is talking, whether judge or one of the counsel.
Moxy Loxy
@MoxyLoxy
·
55s
If jury based on the list then it would. Based on giving the defendant the benefit of the doubt the 6 points should not be applied.

This is fantastic!
by realist
Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:40 pm
Forum: Sovereign Citizens, Private Militias, and Citizen Grand Juries
Topic: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY
Replies: 1588
Views: 118373

Re: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY

Moxy Loxy
@MoxyLoxy
·
1m
The KJNP security detail or the list of names. It is unclear what the jury did. If the decided based on KJNP the enhancement would not apply
by realist
Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:38 pm
Forum: Sovereign Citizens, Private Militias, and Citizen Grand Juries
Topic: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY
Replies: 1588
Views: 118373

Re: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY

Moxy Loxy
@MoxyLoxy
·
1m
The judge has Schaeffer with a criminal history category of level 2.

With the weapons it would be 108-135 months.

Conspiracy at a level of 33.
The official victim enhancement has 2 theories to consider
Moxy Loxy
@MoxyLoxy
·
5m
The Judge has entered
by realist
Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:37 pm
Forum: Sovereign Citizens, Private Militias, and Citizen Grand Juries
Topic: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY
Replies: 1588
Views: 118373

Re: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY

Truth Abides
@Truth_Abides
Replying to
@MoxyLoxy
fingers crossed for justice

by realist
Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:33 pm
Forum: Sovereign Citizens, Private Militias, and Citizen Grand Juries
Topic: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY
Replies: 1588
Views: 118373

Re: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY

Court begins at 9:30 Pacific, according to the poot thread. Moxy Loxy @MoxyLoxy · 3m This is an old courtroom with limited seating. Currently there are about 25 in observation. We are waiting for the judge to enter . #freeschaeffercox Moxy Loxy @MoxyLoxy · 5m Schaeffer has entered the courtroom .
by realist
Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:35 am
Forum: Sovereign Citizens, Private Militias, and Citizen Grand Juries
Topic: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY
Replies: 1588
Views: 118373

Re: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY

Foggy wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:16 am
On the Free Schaeffer page on Facebook, I commented that "I am so, so hopeful."

And the lady who runs it gave me a like!

Now I don't have the heart to tell her what I'm hopeful for ... :mrgreen:
:thumbs: :lol:
by realist
Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:57 pm
Forum: Sovereign Citizens, Private Militias, and Citizen Grand Juries
Topic: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY
Replies: 1588
Views: 118373

Re: The Trial of Schaeffer Cox - GUILTY

While I'd love to keep following this spell-binding commentary, I'm going to have to go now. Have fun. :thumbs: Moxy Loxy @MoxyLoxy · 2m Skrocki: was the grand jury at Dennys to nullify what a court would rule? C: it was to discuss if it should be nullified. :rotflmao: Moxy Loxy @MoxyLoxy · 5m "Mr. ...

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