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by June bug
Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:57 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: WND - World Net Daily
Replies: 5286
Views: 319995

WND - World Net Daily

It's not just that they wanted it but that added to that, the child could have been sent away sooner.Patricia, you made a similar statement in a previous post - that Ann Dunham could have sent Barack back to Hawaii anytime during those four years. My presumption has always been that she wanted her ...
by June bug
Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:54 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: Obama birth certificate on Factcheck
Replies: 58
Views: 3362

Obama birth certificate on Factcheck

The pro-Obama press was forwarding the "Sarah's a Christian" thing, while the NYT was reporting what she said. McCarthy reported entirely accurately.While technically that may be true, it's only technically true. He attributes a political motive to what may simply have been sloppy journalism. Furth...
by June bug
Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:39 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: Obama birth certificate on Factcheck
Replies: 58
Views: 3362

Obama birth certificate on Factcheck

We're not discussing an issue that arose from Barack Obama's own behavior - this is about someone else's (his mother and possibly Soetoro's) actions when he was a child.As far as I know, nobody is suggesting anything was improper about being adopted, if he was. Why such a simple thing like being ad...
by June bug
Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:15 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: Obama birth certificate on Factcheck
Replies: 58
Views: 3362

Obama birth certificate on Factcheck

All of this is in the McCarthy thing I posted....which I already read... and informed you in a previous post that nothing McCarthey cited is proven and most of it has been debunked. Oh, and I particularly like the way McCarthey uses as one of his "house of cards" cards assaulting Obama's honesty, t...
by June bug
Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:54 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: Why birthers think Obama is ineligible
Replies: 372
Views: 17259

Why birthers think Obama is ineligible

My bachelor's degree is in journalism. I worked as a reporter for a local paper when I got out of school for about four years. The press uses its "news judgment" to determine what is of public interest and value. To my mind, the life of a president is of immense public interest, and thus a question...
by June bug
Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:40 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: Obama birth certificate on Factcheck
Replies: 58
Views: 3362

Obama birth certificate on Factcheck

We never used to act like this as a country. If there were questions, the press would ask the candidate. Now, all we do is sweep unexplained allegations under the rug and the person acts as if it's some kind of invasion of privacy to ask about his life, while at the same time, he chooses what to re...
by June bug
Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:27 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: Obama birth certificate on Factcheck
Replies: 58
Views: 3362

Obama birth certificate on Factcheck

Patricia,You didn't respond to my request. You send me to McCarthey who has nothing that's documented and a lot that has been debunked. Without any citations, you tell me to "search the web". The one example you provide is the only oneI asked you not to use because it is a matter of interpretation ...
by June bug
Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:17 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: Why birthers think Obama is ineligible
Replies: 372
Views: 17259

Why birthers think Obama is ineligible

"Were you adopted by Lolo Soetoro, and did you ever have Indonesian citizenship?"Following up on Cee Cee's response, how do we know that Barack Obama even knows if he was adopted or had Indonesian citizenship at one time? He was between 6 and 10 when he lived in Indonesia. Why would anyone even hav...
by June bug
Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:58 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: Obama birth certificate on Factcheck
Replies: 58
Views: 3362

Obama birth certificate on Factcheck



The lies are amply cataloguedPlease catalog them again for us, then. I am not being sarcastic or malicious. I have not accused you of still wanting to believe he is not an NBC. I would seriously like to know.
by June bug
Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:48 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: Obama birth certificate on Factcheck
Replies: 58
Views: 3362

Obama birth certificate on Factcheck

If he lied about some things, how are we to know when he's told a lie when he's said other things that haven't yet been proven lies, either by his own words or the research of others? I don't think there's anything wrong at all in a person's wanting more complete information about who the president...
by June bug
Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:57 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: A provocative conservative view on birtherism
Replies: 44
Views: 2253

A provocative conservative view on birtherism

Sorry Patricia- I don't see this as a thoughtful piece. To begin with, there's this: Regardless of why people may want to see the vault copy, what’s been requested is a primary document that is materially more detailed than what Obama has thus far provided.For what legitimate purpose is a "material...
by June bug
Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:43 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: Obama birth certificate on Factcheck
Replies: 58
Views: 3362

Obama birth certificate on Factcheck



I sent Andrew Sullivan an email.You did a helluva good job on that e-mail too, CB. It should be required reading for every birther.No kidding - terrific job, CB!
by June bug
Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:14 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: A provocative conservative view on birtherism
Replies: 44
Views: 2253

A provocative conservative view on birtherism

Hi, Junebug, American politics from the beginning was like this, and actually a lot worse. This is actually quite tame compared to our earliest days. And we don't duel anymore, so that's good. Hi Patricia, Yes, I'm aware that rhetorical nastiness and incitement to violence has always been a part of...
by June bug
Wed Jul 29, 2009 8:57 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: A provocative conservative view on birtherism
Replies: 44
Views: 2253

A provocative conservative view on birtherism



Bogus info and Adelante,Awww, gee thanks!
by June bug
Wed Jul 29, 2009 8:26 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: A provocative conservative view on birtherism
Replies: 44
Views: 2253

A provocative conservative view on birtherism

Hi Patricia,This is a perfect example of the level to which politics has sunk. Not the questioning of Barack Obama's eligibility...that's anyone's right to opine upon, informed opinion or not. But I resent like hell the wholesale character assassination of an entire class of Americans that accompan...
by June bug
Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:47 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: About The Nordyke Twins
Replies: 194
Views: 8105

About The Nordyke Twins

and btw, ALL my research into this has been online ... so, if i say i read it somewhere, i really did ... doesn't automatically mean the info came from a 'slanted site'. That is what is sooooo surprising to me, with what i've been able to access and comprehend, i stutter every time i think about it...
by June bug
Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:46 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: About The Nordyke Twins
Replies: 194
Views: 8105

About The Nordyke Twins

where are you ppl getting the info that Barry was 6 upon arriving in Indonesia ?? I have found no facts supporting that ... instead, there is a photo posted, supposedly of young Barry in his kindergarten class 1967, in Hawaii ... now, would someone please explain how Barry can be in both places at ...
by June bug
Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:03 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: Why birthers think Obama is ineligible
Replies: 372
Views: 17259

Why birthers think Obama is ineligible

At this point, they are truly losing all connection with reality. It's so sad to watch people surrendering their better judgment to their wishful thinking. How did they get ensnared in this? Is it possible that all of them had a pre-existing thinking problem? I have yet to encounter one of them onl...
by June bug
Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:42 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: The Hun is a (steady) Drip - Sam Sewell
Replies: 606
Views: 35918

The Hun is a (steady) Drip - Sam Sewell

The category was Race, though, not Continent. Do you call everybody from South Africa "African"?American is not a race either.... yet... [/break1]genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bryajw/HardestyPhotos/Keala%20Hardesty%20birth%20certificate.jpg]http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.anc ... ficate.jpgF...
by June bug
Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:45 pm
Forum: Orly Taitz
Topic: Cook v. Good: Orly's GA Military Case
Replies: 831
Views: 29590

Cook v. Good: Orly's GA Military Case

Perfect match for Orly's sponsoring attorney? He and Mr. Lincoln would get along just fine, I'd bet. Charges against attorney Mark Shelnutt stand Judge denies lawyer's motions to dismiss; trial set for Sept. 8 By Chuck Williams - [/break1]com]chwilliams@ledger-enquirer.com Add to My Yahoo! Bookmark...
by June bug
Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:17 pm
Forum: Birther Case Discussion
Topic: BARNETT|KEYES v. OBAMA - II - DISCUSSION (9th Cir.)
Replies: 7790
Views: 282130

BARNETT|KEYES v. OBAMA - II - DISCUSSION (9th Cir.)

What a freakin' mess. I have not finished my read-through of the First Amended Complaint, but the first thing that jumps out is the glaring incongruence between the demand for jury trial and the requested relief in the form of declaratory judgment and various injunctions. Actions for declaratory ju...

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