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by maydijo
Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:13 pm
Forum: Bundy Ranch/Malheur NWR
Topic: Bundy related gossip and discussion
Replies: 15920
Views: 1178435

Re: Bundy related gossip and discussion

big :snippity: I know there are Trump supporters in the Poot movement. Trump is gonna build a WALL. Where in the Constitution does it say he is allowed to do this? Has any Pootriot mentioned this? How about KrisAnne Hall? Gavin Seim? Anybody? If you listen to their Facebook feeds, Trump is also goi...
by maydijo
Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:09 pm
Forum: Bundy Ranch/Malheur NWR
Topic: Bundy related gossip and discussion
Replies: 15920
Views: 1178435

Re: Bundy related gossip and discussion

:snippity: Quick clarity for you (raised Irish Catholic with a Catholic school teaching mother-- it was rough), Bishop in Catholicism oversees an area (territory like) of Catholic Churches. They aren't pastors in the Catholic religion but Priests, referred to as Father (add any name here). In Chris...
by maydijo
Sat Sep 03, 2016 9:36 pm
Forum: Bundy Ranch/Malheur NWR
Topic: Bundy related gossip and discussion
Replies: 15920
Views: 1178435

Re: Bundy related gossip and discussion

:snippity: So, it seems to me that Cliven and his neighbor Keith put together a book that comprises their beliefs based on a number of sources, including the Mormon Faith, the John Birch Society, and either a mixture of personal opinion or so-called personal revelation by Cliven and Keith. They bel...
by maydijo
Sat Sep 03, 2016 12:37 am
Forum: Bundy Ranch/Malheur NWR
Topic: Bundy related gossip and discussion
Replies: 15920
Views: 1178435

Re: Bundy related gossip and discussion

Perhaps this could be moved to the Mormon discussion thread? http://thefogbow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=9080#p813079 I'm not really here to defend Mormonism, which is what I'd have to do if I took this discussion to that board. I just wanted to give some insights into why/how Mormonism is rela...
by maydijo
Fri Sep 02, 2016 11:57 pm
Forum: Bundy Ranch/Malheur NWR
Topic: Bundy related gossip and discussion
Replies: 15920
Views: 1178435

Re: Bundy related gossip and discussion

:snippity: Excommunication is a matter for local authorities. :snippity: However, if they are convicted of a crime, and serve their sentence in Oregon, their membership records will travel with them. Stakes have geographic borders. There would be a Stake President whose borders would cover the Oreg...
by maydijo
Fri Sep 02, 2016 11:46 pm
Forum: Bundy Ranch/Malheur NWR
Topic: Bundy related gossip and discussion
Replies: 15920
Views: 1178435

Re: Bundy related gossip and discussion

With regards to excommunication: The official church policy is not to comment on whether or not a person has been excommunicated. I have never participated in a disciplinary process. If you want a first hand account you can find several of them on-line. Church courts are not convened very often. Thi...
by maydijo
Fri Sep 02, 2016 10:48 pm
Forum: Bundy Ranch/Malheur NWR
Topic: Bundy related gossip and discussion
Replies: 15920
Views: 1178435

Re: Bundy related gossip and discussion

I've registered to clear up a few things about the Bundys and Mormonism. First I should say this is my opinion; but I was born and raised in Eastern Oregon and I am a Mormon. There are very strong cultural elements at play here for me; the Bundys offend me as a Mormon, as an Oregonian, as an Eastern...

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